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Old 05-29-2007, 08:34 PM
Carmine Carmine is offline
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No way I lead. Tattoo easily looks like a missed turn C/R. What makes DFM shut down on the paired board. JTs only makes sense there, but does he 3 ball it PF. I guess it depends on how he views the initial raiser.

Either way I'm taking a check and see approach. If there was a cursor involved it would defiantly be hovering over the fold button. The other TT is another remote possiblity for DFM.
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Old 05-29-2007, 08:33 PM
Justin A Justin A is offline
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Check and call.

Rest of the hand is fine. Doug doesn't have AK so I wouldn't be too worried about this river card. You almost certainly have him beat unless he has KT.
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Old 05-30-2007, 12:12 AM
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Check and call.

Rest of the hand is fine. Doug doesn't have AK so I wouldn't be too worried about this river card. You almost certainly have him beat unless he has KT.

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Given we have Doug beat and the other guy is a dumb LAG who didn't bet the turn, why don't we value bet? Check and call and hope who bluffs that didn't bluff the turn? I'm with you, putting Doug on QT and such, and other guy can have like any pair, too much value when he'll probably call.

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Old 05-29-2007, 09:13 PM
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I'm shocked no one is advocating a healthy 4bet here pf. I mean, a LAG opens in MP and I 3bet in the HJ?? theres a decent chance joe is up against 4 undercards. Too much value left on the table, not to mention joes 2.33 cold calling range is prett slim here, so I think his hand is way too readable, and my hand can be defined a bit more by my reaction to joe's 4bet. I almost posted this hand from my point of view. I'm curious to see what you guys put me on.
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Old 05-29-2007, 09:22 PM
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I'm shocked no one is advocating a healthy 4bet here pf. I mean, a LAG opens in MP and I 3bet in the HJ?? theres a decent chance joe is up against 4 undercards. Too much value left on the table, not to mention joes 2.33 cold calling range is prett slim here, so I think his hand is way too readable, and my hand can be defined a bit more by my reaction to joe's 4bet. I almost posted this hand from my point of view. I'm curious to see what you guys put me on.

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I think you have AT or 66. Those are two hands you'd put in a ton of action with on the flop and take a free card with on the turn.
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Old 05-29-2007, 09:38 PM
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I'm shocked no one is advocating a healthy 4bet here pf. I mean, a LAG opens in MP and I 3bet in the HJ?? theres a decent chance joe is up against 4 undercards. Too much value left on the table, not to mention joes 2.33 cold calling range is prett slim here, so I think his hand is way too readable, and my hand can be defined a bit more by my reaction to joe's 4bet. I almost posted this hand from my point of view. I'm curious to see what you guys put me on.

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I was going to advocate it, but you had to be a jerk and say it first. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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Old 05-29-2007, 11:39 PM
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I'm shocked no one is advocating a healthy 4bet here pf. I mean, a LAG opens in MP and I 3bet in the HJ?? theres a decent chance joe is up against 4 undercards. Too much value left on the table, not to mention joes 2.33 cold calling range is prett slim here, so I think his hand is way too readable, and my hand can be defined a bit more by my reaction to joe's 4bet. I almost posted this hand from my point of view. I'm curious to see what you guys put me on.

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good point I thought you guys were closer to EP. But yeah, even then his hand probably gets defined too much by calling.

I put you on QT, KT, AT. I can't really justify your play with anything else except maybe the other TT. Unless of course I'm completely missing something.
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Old 05-29-2007, 11:56 PM
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"No. Anglo, usually wears a baseball cap. You'd remember him, from the tattoos, if you knew him."

it's strange.. cause i remember a guy exactly like you guys were describing him last year during wsop... i think he had a scar on his neck or face and yeah he was wearing a hat..

the reason i remember him so vividly is because he was one of the most aggressive players i have ever played with and it was a big change from what i was used to back east...
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Old 05-30-2007, 11:35 PM
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"I'm curious to see what you guys put me on."

i didnt read the hand but:
the other TT
quads
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Old 05-30-2007, 11:38 PM
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"I'm curious to see what you guys put me on."

i didnt read the hand but:
the other TT
quads
aces

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Holy $hit Mike, you play good! Seriously.
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