TPTK with resistance on the turn.....???

[bazookajoe]

We are either WA or WB here. He could do this with JT or a 9 just as easily as a worse Q. I think calling down is much better than any kind of min raise, raise etc.

[OSUGreg1983]

As it turns out he did have J10, so my flop raise was very good imo. I called his turn bet and he checked to a rag on the river for some reason while I checked behind.

[bazookajoe]

it's nice when they let you get to a cheap showdown

[Babalatexi]

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As it turns out he did have J10, so my flop raise was very good imo. I called his turn bet and he checked to a rag on the river for some reason while I checked behind.

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He could've have A2 or 55. The point is that you're playing against his whole range, I still wouldn't raise the flop unless I had specific reads that villain called any bets very lightly.

EDIT: His bet was very small, I missed that. I stand corrected, in this case I'd probably raise the flop. If he bet 3/4ths or more I wouldn't.

[SDone]

Well played.

[DaycareInferno]

overall, you get more value out of worse hands by calling the flop on a board like that. he usually isn't going to have the one draw in play. much more often you'll see pp or Qx that has almost no chance of catching you.

edit: Qx, pp, or a bluff, that is.

[djj6835]

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overall, you get more value out of worse hands by calling the flop on a board like that. he usually isn't going to have the one draw in play. much more often you'll see pp or Qx that has almost no chance of catching you.

edit: Qx, pp, or a bluff, that is.

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Not raising this flop is a pretty big mistake imo. Are you flat calling here with AA or KK? AA = AQ here. Its not like villain is folding any qx hand here if you raise or tj. Calling basically allows villain to continue to bluff which he probably is doing rarely, and maybe gets one more street of small value from an underpair assuming the board doesn't get even scarier. Just start trying to get max value from JT and Qx right away which are the main hands that you will be getting value from in this spot anyways.

edit: probably not that important at this level, but hand balancing should also be brought into consideration. You don't want your raising range on this flop to be polarized to nines or nothing.

[DaycareInferno]

AA/KK are in worse shape vs. Qx than AQ.

er, actually they're not on that paired board. i call with them too.