K5s What to do

[Martina]

PokerStars 0.50/1.00 6Max

Preflop: Hero is K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] on BTN.
Everybody folds, Hero raises, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
SB bets, Hero...

[Aaron W.]

I hope you bet if you're checked to...

[neurotiq]

Did BB call, fold, or raise on the flop?

[arborman]

Looks to me like a failed steal attempt - I'd let it go without more information.

[Aaron W.]

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Looks to me like a failed steal attempt - I'd let it go without more information.

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That's a bit weak-tight. Do you always fold top pair no kicker for one bet?

[AAlphamale]

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That's a bit weak-tight. Do you always fold top pair no kicker for one bet?

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Meh.. there's 3-flush on the flop. It's likely that the bettor has a flush, a better king or at least a flush draw so there are very bad reversed implied odds. There are better situations to come...

But also, no one should be playing hands like K5s, they only cause trouble.

[ckj]

He generally doesn't have a flush here. I expect him to have a single spade, either the A or Q 90% of the time. If the BB folded, then call, down and c/f if another spade hits. Maybe raise a non-spade turn.

[vixticator]

I'm raising this for value 100% of the time. Yes better Kings in his range but also needs to protect his hand if it's something like A8, or even T8, etc. You need to protect your hand too against a bunch of draws. I raise and call cap, call down, fold a spade if he bets just because it doesn't seem like this would be a bluff very often.

edit: Obv he could have a flush now. That would suck but meh. I don't like to call down on the flop but seems like it maybe has some merit as well.

[Befolder]

Long time no post.

I think our value in this hand in its completeness is thin. I call every street UI and bet if checked to on later rounds. I think we can fold if a 4th spade comes and villain continues to bet. Sometimes we'll be ahead, sometimes we'll be behind, but I think in the long run we're fine letting it go to a 4th spade.

[bellatrix]

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But also, no one should be playing hands like K5s, they only cause trouble.

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It's called stealing and it's a GREAT hand to steal with.