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Old 09-25-2007, 12:45 AM
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Default Questionable on every street

I don't have much on UTG/MP he seems loose and moderately agro so far.
CO is a LAGTAG 34/21/2.1/40 Don't know anything about him.

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO 3-bets</font>, Button folds, SB calls, Hero calls, UTG calls.

I wanted to see what would happen with UTG since his call or caps means something IMO. Plus AQo isn't exactly awesome vs. a 3-bet and initiative is pretty worthless here.

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (12SB, 4 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises</font>, SB folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#cc0000">CO caps</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls.

With the pot 4 way, I figured there was a decent chance it gets checked through. So I bet. I 3-bet because my hand reads like KQ/QJs/QTs or some other weaker stuff. UTG doesn't know me FWIW.

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (12BB, 3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, CO checks.

[img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] for that. Anyone think I should have lead?

River: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (12BB, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>

Not the best card with UTG calling 2 cold on the flop but I figure I have to value bet it against lower pairs.
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Old 09-25-2007, 12:50 AM
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Default Re: Questionable on every street

doesn't seem like CO can ever have anything but a flush. looks like a c/f ?
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Old 09-25-2007, 12:52 AM
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Default Re: Questionable on every street

So you think CO is capping with what on the flop and taking a free card with?
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Old 09-25-2007, 01:00 AM
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So you think CO is capping with what on the flop and taking a free card with?

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I'm biased by the results here so you'll probably get better answers from others, but I don't think it's impossible it's some kind of weird play with AKo or JJ/TT/88
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Old 09-25-2007, 01:12 AM
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Default Re: Questionable on every street

pf is fine by me.

Flop is a c/r for me.

River i c/c. Even an UTG bet. He can have a Q here 100%.
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Old 09-25-2007, 01:42 AM
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Flop is a c/r for me.

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Anyone else have any thoughts on this or the turn check?
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Old 09-25-2007, 01:43 AM
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i prefer a flop checkraise because any pocket pair bets, UTG may still donk, button may still bet his AK when checked to. the only thing the donk does is insure a bet goes in when UTG doesn't donk himself and button has and checks behind AK.

turn i would never consider betting.
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Old 09-25-2007, 01:48 AM
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Default Re: Questionable on every street

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Flop is a c/r for me.

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Anyone else have any thoughts on this or the turn check?

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CO 3-bet a UTG PFR and capped the flop. its fine.
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Old 09-25-2007, 02:49 AM
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Default Re: Questionable on every street

flop cr is better to put pressure on utg, and like i said i think u have to not let the turn check tho.
if u were gonna shut down after the cap i like b/c the flop donk the turn better.
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Old 09-25-2007, 04:15 AM
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Default Re: Questionable on every street

when I read OP I thought, hmm I c/r the flop.

as played I think the river bet is bad. the hands you are ahead of aren't calling (your donk on the flop could easily have been a flush draw) and the hands you are behind are raising.

should have added that I c/c the river as well. I think c/f'ing is not good in this spot.
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