EV question (set value)

steve bates · #1 11-01-2007, 05:08 AM

My question is, How big must your opponents stack be for you to call a 3 1\2*bb raise, simply for set value alone?.
I'm mainly thinking of when opp opens in early or mid position and you call in late position with 22-77. I'm sure there is a mathematical threshold. Anyone know?.

HarmMan · #2 11-01-2007, 05:10 AM

You can use the 5/10 rule here. If villains bet is less than 5% of his effective stack its a call. If villain bets more than 10% you should fold, if you're playing for setvalue.

steve bates · #3 11-01-2007, 05:12 AM

I have not heard of the 5\10 rule. enlighten me.

HarmMan · #4 11-01-2007, 05:18 AM

This is from uNL anthology:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...rt=all&vc=1

clowntable · #5 11-01-2007, 05:18 AM

Heuristic: Need to be able to win 12x whatever you call extra

whyzze · #6 11-01-2007, 05:19 AM

dont forget about having loose opponents behind you that are likely to call.

Lego05 · #7 11-01-2007, 05:22 AM

Need to on average get 11.7 times what you invest pre-flop to setmine.

gregorio · #8 11-01-2007, 11:06 AM

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You can use the 5/10 rule here. If villains bet is less than 5% of his effective stack its a call. If villain bets more than 10% you should fold, if you're playing for setvalue.

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3/8 rule rule is the new 5/10 rule.