NL25: Flopping a straight on a monotone board

Fenrisulfur · #1 09-13-2007, 05:08 PM

PokerStars Pot-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG+1 ($25)
MP1 ($39.20)
MP2 ($26.25)
CO ($24.45)
Button ($7.60)
SB ($13.30)
Hero ($33.55)
UTG ($21.20)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.25, UTG+1 raises to $0.75, 1 fold, MP2 calls $0.75, 2 folds, SB calls $0.65, Hero calls $0.50, UTG calls $0.50.

Flop: ($3.75) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 bets $2, MP2 folds, SB folds, Hero calls $2, UTG folds.

Turn: ($7.75) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $6.5, Hero calls $6.50.

River: ($20.75) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks.

Final Pot: $20.75

Can I bet the river here?

AlexB182 · #2 09-13-2007, 05:10 PM

You can, but what do you do if villain shoves? Problem is you're OOP here, so I'd be happy to see a showdown without having to call a big river bet..

SABR42 · #3 09-13-2007, 05:11 PM

Jesus, raise the turn and bet the river.

ranka · #4 09-13-2007, 05:16 PM

I never play offsuited connectors in raised pots. Especially OOP. I would fold it preflop.

On the flop I would raise to 8.

Fenrisulfur · #5 09-13-2007, 05:17 PM

Don't know, the thing is, NLHE is about playing big pots, and big pots occur, when someone has the best hand, and the other guy has a secondbest hand he really likes. In cases like this I always wonder if I am the moron in the hand or the other guy. I have no problem getting it AI on the flop with a set on a monotone board, but a straight is just not going to improve. So what do I do if I bet the turn, say about a potsized bet, and villain shoves? Fold, getting 2:1 on my money? Can we say it depends on reads?

AlexB182 · #6 09-13-2007, 05:17 PM

Well, yeah. The problem is that you never really had an idea where you stand in this hand. As played, I think just checking the river isn't too bad. But SABR is right and you should've raised the turn.

Fenrisulfur · #7 09-13-2007, 05:20 PM

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Well, yeah. The problem is that you never really had an idea where you stand in this hand. As played, I think just checking the river isn't too bad. But SABR is right and you should've raised the turn.

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Doesn't this get any 1pr/2pr/naked A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] type hands to fold and a made flush to shove?

kurto · #8 09-13-2007, 06:07 PM

not if they're bad.

Also... sets, 2 pair and flush draws may try to outdraw you.

Luckyspikes · #9 09-14-2007, 09:18 AM

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Jesus, raise the turn and bet the river.

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+1

get it in !