semideep, middle set facing flopraise

[jbird]

I've been very active on this table, but mostly because the deck is slapping me square in the face.

Villain is new to me, but seems to have a clue and knew who Ribbo was so is probably a 2p2er-- feel free to say who you are if you are reading this and want to.

Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $184.75
jbird: $445.90
CO: $52.50
Button: $116.60
SB: $268.70
BB: $63.45

Pre-flop: (6 players) jbird is UTG+1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">jbird raises to $7</font>, 2 folds, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($16, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">jbird bets $10</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $42</font>

[Elrazor]

a fairly common spot, and a situation where i usually fold - will be interested to see what the general concensus is on the hand

[Elrazor]

..........although at a push i might call and represent a scarey turn

[sc000t]

I'd flat call this and raise most turn bets depending on turn card.

[luckyjimm]

Some opponents raise with AQ there

[iggymcfly]

No way I'd fold this. This is most likely AQ, then KJT, then AA. I'd probably just reraise the flop although with the stack sizes, flat-calling and raising the turn wouldn't be bad either.

[Triantafylidis]

flat call and re-eval turn. Very rarely does villain show up with AAxx here. I think best line may be to flat call and a repot on a safe turn. Question is, what is a safe turn here, the board is drawy and your read on villain doesnt narrow his range down much. Any thoughts as to his range?

[Bogglor]

I just 3 bet the flop here most of the time; if he's already put $42 in here, he's likely going to put the rest in on the flop unless his hand is 22xx or AQxx in which case he may find a fold if he's a good player. But I think a draw is far more likely; I'd rank KJT ahead of AQ and AA.

[Hoopster81]

I'd call, trap, and shove over on the turn

IMO you're not nearly deep enough to get away from middle set here - especially if you've been active

[Gary212121]

hands i think are included in his range and our % to win hand

2 wraps: KJ10x + 2345 (70%)
1 set: AAxx nonsuited (10%)
top two: AQxx (possibly w/ a gut shot) (70%)

*i dont think he has a hand like 22xx because i dont think he is calling out of the SB w/ any of those hands.

personally i think i go ahead and repot the flop b.c. if he is drawing i dont think he is going to fold after putting in the 42. (but i am a donkament player, so what do i know). As far as calling and reevaluating on turn-- (K J 10 or even and A ) and he pots, we are forced to fold. or what if he pots a 3 4 5 turn?? i think we are making it to hard on ourselves. Plus if we get a good turn and he has a wrap, he may be more likely to fold with only one card to come. Anyways, im semi-new to omaha so plz let me know if there is any flaws to my thinking.