$22s- AK misses, CRAIed on flop

mondonman · #1 07-01-2007, 02:58 PM

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t50/t100
10 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t3320
UTG+1: t1840
UTG+2: t2320
MP1: t2250
MP2: t1400
MP3: t1980
Hero: t1790
Button: t1620
SB: t2200
BB: t1280

Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
5 folds, MP3 calls t100 (pot was t150), Hero raises to t350, 3 folds, MP3 calls t250 (pot was t600).

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t850, 2 players)
MP3 checks, Hero bets t400, MP3 raises all-in t1630, Hero?

Can I call? Do you play it the same?

jonwanchalk · #2 07-01-2007, 04:24 PM

No way you can call. At worst he has 7's, otherwise he has 4 to the flush or three jacks. Let it go. Play gently with AK, especially pre-flop.

mondonman · #3 07-01-2007, 04:41 PM

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No way you can call. At worst he has 7's, otherwise he has 4 to the flush or three jacks. Let it go. Play gently with AK, especially pre-flop.

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How exactly do you play this hand?

jonwanchalk · #4 07-01-2007, 04:46 PM

With those folds I call PF with high blinds and check the flop, call a min bet and fold to anything else. If I hit an ace or king on turn or river I can still be dominated. It is way too tough to play it after the flop.

Bronstein · #5 07-01-2007, 04:47 PM

Either you move all-in on the flop or bet 400 intending to fold to a raise. So your decision should have been made earlier. Both plays seem reasonable to me.

Finnisher · #6 07-01-2007, 04:56 PM

Usually I just shove pf.

Pudge714 · #7 07-01-2007, 06:01 PM

If you bet this flop. Call a shove. If you bet this flop bet more.

Kevin8423 · #8 07-01-2007, 08:51 PM

Shove this pf.

Pudge714 · #9 07-01-2007, 09:09 PM

I think you lose a lot value shoving pf.

allhappythoughts · #10 07-01-2007, 09:44 PM

Yeah why are we shoving this pf? I guess it makes it easier to play, but you have great position and it's still a solid hand. In general, aren't the only hands calling better hands?

You have to fold to the raise. If you wanted to play it out to the bitter end, you had to shove on the flop IMO. I think you're facing someone who's four-flushed about 75% of the time, and someone who has a pp like 88 99 or TT the other 25% of the time. Either way, it's not a very good spot. You lose 750 chips, but you still have 10BB and the blinds just passed you, so you have some time to find a better spot.

Any reads, btw? Without reads I play it the same. If I knew that he liked to c/r or valued flushdraws a lot, I might check behind. If he knows that you cbet 1/2 pot a lot, he might just feel like you have air and he wants to put some pressure on you, and that might induce me to call.

Generally speaking though, I play it the same.