Go bust Deepstacked with Aces in 3-betted Pot?

[ReadOnYou]

25.8vp 16.0pfr 4.86AF 22wts 9flop AF 225 Hands


Been sitting with this fella at the table for a while. 2 Hands earlier I'd 3-betted him already and I knew he wasnt too happy about this 3-bet so the chance he'd call preflop was bigger.

Id fold flop or turn to more passive players in this scenario, not sure how to deal with him though. Anyways, the hand:


Party Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
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SB: $224.86
BB: $103.62
UTG: $173.04
Hero (CO): $203.91
BTN: $96.53

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $4</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $14</font>, 3 folds, UTG calls $10

Flop: ($29.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $21</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $52</font>, Hero calls $31

Turn: ($133.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $50</font>, Hero calls $50

River: ($233.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $57.04 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls $57.04

Results: $347.58 Pot ($2 Rake)

[AaronOC]

if you're gonna go with it you might as well push the turn, the board being double paired is also great for your hand and we can't really get away from our hand on the turn, shove

[Daddy Warbucks]

I really don't understand the turn at all.

[ReadOnYou]

the turn i just called cause i wanst sure what to do. i wasnt sure whether to call flop or fold. if he c/r the flop that way its very likely hes gonna fire the turn again. I just wonder if i can get away from that hand anywhere here against this type of player.


edit: his turn bet by the board pairning either means he has a FH and is making a cheap prize to suck me in or he has - the only hand i beat - KK and is insecure, so sorta block bet. And yea regarding my river play i might as well have gotten it in on teh turn. At that point, I did however not know what to do so I just called ^^

[Nick Royale]

Don't fold anywhere. Probabyl felt the flop.

[shandyboy]

I read this and thought omg pls shove turn.

Then i read thread and that was the concensus. So, shove turn [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

As played, call rivah.

[ReadOnYou]

any1 folding flop ?

[el_gringo]

You can't fold the flop on a 3-betted Pot and a very drawy board. Either 3-bet the flop or push the turn.

By the way your stack to pot ratio is around 5 on the flop so this is +++EV to play for your stack against this player

[TurdFerguson]

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the turn i just called cause i wanst sure what to do. i wasnt sure whether to call flop or fold. if he c/r the flop that way its very likely hes gonna fire the turn again. I just wonder if i can get away from that hand anywhere here against this type of player.


edit: his turn bet by the board pairning either means he has a FH and is making a cheap prize to suck me in or he has - the only hand i beat - KK and is insecure, so sorta block bet. And yea regarding my river play i might as well have gotten it in on teh turn. At that point, I did however not know what to do so I just called ^^

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Really? You don't think AdJd or a naked flush draw is a significant part of his range here? He can ONLY have KK, JJ, or 99? Methinks not, esp. given his stats.

If you're not going to 3bet all-in on the flop, get it in on a non-diamond turn, please. You're ahead here often enough to make it profitable.

[ReadOnYou]

ok alright very convincing, guess then the mistake wasnt going broke here but not shoving flop or turn. thanks