NL 10 thoughts on turn and river

Babalatexi · #1 10-15-2007, 06:26 PM

Villain is 29.5/8.2/0.93 after 120 hands, mostly datamined. His stats are from full ring, the table just happens to have only 6 players at the moment. I called on the button (OMG NO!!!) because I didn't want to raise due to the short stack on my left and I believe I profit with a hand like this even with just calling as it's NL 10. Who raises turn and why? Raise river=standard?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed)

CO ($10.34)
Hero ($9.95)
SB ($3.47)
BB ($9.97)
UTG ($2.50)
MP ($10)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
2 folds, CO calls $0.10, Hero calls $0.10, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($0.45) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, CO bets $0.3, Hero calls $0.30, SB folds, BB folds.

Turn: ($1.05) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
CO bets $0.5, Hero calls $0.50.

River: ($2.05) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
CO bets $1.2, Hero ?

TheChad · #2 10-15-2007, 06:31 PM

I srsly dislike raising the turn - his AF is so low and he's betting into you. You're likely to be reraised for a lot without a made hand.
river raise seems std. I go on the bigger end as he probably flopped a pretty strong hand and is 3 barreling.

Milky · #3 10-15-2007, 06:32 PM

You really should raise pf, regardless of SB being shortstacked.

I think a turn raise is pretty good since with his AF he's probably not 3betting you unless he has the straight, and even then he might not.

Definitely need to raise river, something like $3-$4.

Babalatexi · #4 10-15-2007, 06:38 PM

River: ($2.05) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
CO bets $1.2, Hero raises to $4, CO raises $10.34 (All-In), Hero has a little more than 5 to call, what to do?

TheChad · #5 10-15-2007, 06:41 PM

yuck. I flip a coin and probably make the crying call. I have a reload waiting for me though.

Dallas Dru · #6 10-15-2007, 06:42 PM

call the river... easy call

rwejr · #7 10-15-2007, 06:45 PM

pray real quick and call ... hope he doesn't have you beat.

TheChad · #8 10-15-2007, 06:45 PM

this is not an easy call. NFDs are often played like this.

Babalatexi · #9 10-15-2007, 06:46 PM

The bad thing is that I don't see how villain can have anything else than the A-high flush or a pretty bad hand here but since the pot odds are good I called getting about 3:1. Dunno if this is a leak.

Milky · #10 10-15-2007, 06:45 PM

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River: ($2.05) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
CO bets $1.2, Hero raises to $4, CO raises $10.34 (All-In), Hero has a little more than 5 to call, what to do?

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Call. He could have a set/straight/lower flush. If he has higher flush so be it, I'm paying him off.