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08-24-2007, 07:01 PM
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400NL - TP no kicker, should I call this river bet ?
Villain is 25/12/1.8 over 200 hands. No history, he's regular but not very good (open-limp a ton, etc...).
Everest Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00/$4.00 (HH Converter by Kreatief) SB ($62.00) BB ($405.60) CO ($546.50) Button ($590.70) Preflop: Hero is Button with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] CO calls $4.00, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $16.00</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls $12.00, Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ( $38 ) CO checks, Hero checks, Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ( $38 ) <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $20.00</font>, Hero calls $20.00, River: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ( $78 ) <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $78.00</font>, Hero ...? Thoughts on all streets are welcome. 
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#2
08-24-2007, 07:14 PM
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Re: 400NL - TP no kicker, should I call this river bet ?
I like how you played it. River seems like a close decision, I probably fold though. In my experience I rarely see a pot size bet for a bluff here.
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#4
08-24-2007, 07:26 PM
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Re: 400NL - TP no kicker, should I call this river bet ?
In all seriousness, this looks like some idiotic hand which hoped YOU had air on the turn and then hit the river hard. A2/22 seem to fit this bill, although I consider the latter unlikely. KT would be a hand I see Villain playing this way if he has poor, uncreative lines for value. Either way, you don't beat much and aren't getting great odds, so fold.
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#5
08-24-2007, 07:28 PM
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Re: 400NL - TP no kicker, should I call this river bet ?
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nope [/ QUOTE ] Nope to me or him? I don't like pre at all though.
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#6
08-24-2007, 07:38 PM
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Re: 400NL - TP no kicker, should I call this river bet ?
the only bluff i can see here is if he picked up a FD on the turn and now he thinks a second barrel might work because you didn't show much strenght.
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#7
08-24-2007, 07:41 PM
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Re: 400NL - TP no kicker, should I call this river bet ?
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[ QUOTE ] nope [/ QUOTE ] Nope to me or him? I don't like pre at all though. [/ QUOTE ] i think it's the answer to "should i call this river bet?"
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#8
08-24-2007, 07:48 PM
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Re: 400NL - TP no kicker, should I call this river bet ?
Thanks for the answers, I called because I underrepresented my hand and felt like he could second barrel here but the bet sizing was indeed really weird for a bluff. He had QJs.
Do you change your mind if the Villain has the same aggr. factor but is donkier, with stats like 40/15 ?
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#9
08-24-2007, 07:49 PM
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Re: 400NL - TP no kicker, should I call this river bet ?
why not bet the flop? u seem to take an agressive stance by raising limper with A8o so why not follow thru & bet the flop, even if u had missed u need to continue with ur agression. If u cant follow thru on a flop like this why raise the A8 to begin with? just my opinion.
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#10
08-24-2007, 07:51 PM
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Re: 400NL - TP no kicker, should I call this river bet ?
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why not bet the flop? u seem to take an agressive stance by raising limper with A8o so why not follow thru & bet the flop, even if u had missed u need to continue with ur agression. If u cant follow thru on a flop like this why raise the A8 to begin with? just my opinion. [/ QUOTE ] The flop is reasonnably dry and I'm not getting called by worst hand against this villain, this is a value check.
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