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Old 06-11-2007, 11:22 PM
Nate tha\\\' Great Nate tha\\\' Great is offline
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Just bet-fold. I don't think this dude set up elaborate bluffs in small, unraised pots but I do think he'll peel light in position.
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Old 06-11-2007, 11:44 PM
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Absolute Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $3/$6
6 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls, BB folds.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5SB, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4.5BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG+1 calls.

River: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (10.5BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises</font>, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: 1BB returned to UTG+1.

Results:
Final pot: 12.5BB
<font color="#ffffff">UTG+1 Shows Kc Kd</font>
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Old 06-11-2007, 11:54 PM
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This is not an unraised pot, and I think you see a badly played AT or AA there enough to warrant a call.
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Old 06-12-2007, 12:20 AM
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i didn't mean for this hand to be part of the thread. i just wanted a place to post it. this guy would never have AA or AT. i realized after a few hundo that he was really really straightforward.
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Old 06-12-2007, 12:33 AM
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i didn't mean for this hand to be part of the thread. i just wanted a place to post it. this guy would never have AA or AT. i realized after a few hundo that he was really really straightforward.

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Still a bad river fold IMO. No read can be 100% accurate since you dont know the guy that well and humans are moody. I must admit though that against me you can fold the river every time in that spot cuz I will always have it. I also think you should fold preflop even in a 2/3 structure.
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Old 06-12-2007, 12:36 AM
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This is a pretty easy check fold imo.

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I find it interesting that you think its an easy check/fold while Nate thinks its a bet/fold. I personally would check/fold.
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Old 06-12-2007, 12:36 AM
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so this is the same villain? AA makes sense or a bad QT vs most players where u have to call this river. this guys states tho combined w/ u saying ur read is really solid on his play, u probably didnt fold the winner but ud only have to see AA or Txhh 1 in 12 before calling is more ev than folding (as u know). if u say he wouldnt raise the turn with QThh or somethin or wouldnt raise that preflop, or raise this river ever with AA i guess i cant argue. the turn or river being the T of hearts tho would make the fold much better in my mind.
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Old 06-12-2007, 12:39 AM
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i was gonna ask about what a standard call there in a 2/3 structure was, ive never played it as far as i can remember actually
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Old 06-12-2007, 12:39 AM
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not the same guy. he'll never have QT playing the way he was playing when this hand went down.
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Old 06-12-2007, 01:18 AM
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This is a pretty easy check fold imo.

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I find it interesting that you think its an easy check/fold while Nate thinks its a bet/fold. I personally would check/fold.

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One of Nate's posts is usually worth 5-10 of mine, but in this one I wish he gave some reasoning...
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