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Old 08-07-2007, 03:50 PM
Newt_Buggs Newt_Buggs is offline
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Default 5/10 hand checkup: TT vs LAG reg

The limper is a loose passive fish. I'm going to be raising a reasonably wide range here preflop to isolate him and the SB probably knows this.

Villain is 24/20 4.6/3/1.6 over 8k hands

Anyone play it differently? Insta muck river?

Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $10 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Hero ($2179.50)
Button ($1153)
SB ($1420)
BB ($1088)
UTG ($1445.25)
MP ($547)

Preflop: Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $10, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $45</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $160</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP folds, Hero calls $115.

Flop: ($340) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $222</font>, Hero calls $222.

Turn: ($784) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($784) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $480</font>, Hero
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Old 08-07-2007, 06:45 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 hand checkup: TT vs LAG reg

Vs some villians id fold the flop.

Vs most villians id fold river.

other then that standrand
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Old 08-07-2007, 11:27 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 hand checkup: TT vs LAG reg

4bet preflop ?
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Old 08-08-2007, 12:46 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 hand checkup: TT vs LAG reg

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4bet preflop ?

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hope your 4 bet bluffing a ton.
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Old 08-08-2007, 01:02 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 hand checkup: TT vs LAG reg

What do you think you are beating when you call the flop? AQ/AJ? After you check the turn, he should have a pretty good idea that you have a mid pair. If you had just floated, you would be betting the turn but since you check he has to assume you have a showdown hand. Also, if you had a king, he probably thinks you bet the turn as well (which you may or may not in reality). I'd venture he has QQ/JJ here and is value betting. A "bluff" with AQ/AJ seems stupid here and a smart player wouldn't attempt it much.
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Old 08-08-2007, 01:07 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 hand checkup: TT vs LAG reg

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What do you think you are beating when you call the flop? AQ/AJ? After you check the turn, he should have a pretty good idea that you have a mid pair. If you had just floated, you would be betting the turn but since you check he has to assume you have a showdown hand. Also, if you had a king, he probably thinks you bet the turn as well (which you may or may not in reality). I'd venture he has QQ/JJ here and is value betting. A "bluff" with AQ/AJ seems stupid here and a smart player wouldn't attempt it much.

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This analysis assumes a much too narrow 3 betting range
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Old 08-08-2007, 01:10 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 hand checkup: TT vs LAG reg

Well, he didn't say any special 3 betting range so I assumed a standard of AJ+/KQ/88+.

Can you give me a normal 5/10NL 3 betting range for a LAG?

And give the results in a while if you can (unless you folded).
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Old 08-08-2007, 02:05 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 hand checkup: TT vs LAG reg

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Well, he didn't say any special 3 betting range so I assumed a standard of AJ+/KQ/88+.

Can you give me a normal 5/10NL 3 betting range for a LAG?

And give the results in a while if you can (unless you folded).

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Any 2p2er who plays at this level will probaly not be a winning player with that range.
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Old 08-08-2007, 02:06 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 hand checkup: TT vs LAG reg

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Well, he didn't say any special 3 betting range so I assumed a standard of AJ+/KQ/88+.

Can you give me a normal 5/10NL 3 betting range for a LAG?

And give the results in a while if you can (unless you folded).

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Any 2p2er who plays at this level will probaly not be a winning player with that range. If you are 3 betting that tight you shouldn't be 3 betting AJ, KQ probaly.

I'd stay a more normal range would include many more suited connectors.

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Old 08-08-2007, 02:10 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 hand checkup: TT vs LAG reg

which are your basic adaptions when you play against a 27/22 type of player and you feel hes really 3betting you light,
do we rather
4bet back and a little lighter than we would usally,
call and see more flops in position with suited cons/pp ( here i think our Implieds are low because he wont have much often enough to make it a call preflop, in position)

c) just fold, say uuh and wait for jj+/AK
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