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Old 08-12-2007, 02:52 AM
DevinLake DevinLake is offline
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Default 5/10 live: Second nuts, everyone wakes up on turn.

So, I've been incredibly card dead. Despite that I've built a good stack cause people don't pay attention and give you action regardless of how many hands you've played.

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Asian Dude: $500
Hot wife guy: ~$1800
Hero: Covers.

Hot wife dude has been playing very standard/solid.

Hero is EP with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

folds to hero, Hero raises to $35, Asian Dude (who stacks off a lot) calls, Old Greek guy (who stacks off a lot) calls, Hot wife guy calls.

Flop ($140): Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] blank. (4 players)
Check, check, check, check.

Turn ($140): 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Old Greek guy bets $115, Hot wife guy calls, Hero raises to $500, Asian Dude calls (all-in), Old Greek guy folds, Hot wife guy raises to $1800 (all-in), Hero ????
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Old 08-12-2007, 03:00 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 live: Second nuts, everyone wakes up on turn.

K10 could have easily snuck in looking at the flop play..depending on my read on villian i can see a fold
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Old 08-12-2007, 03:07 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 live: Second nuts, everyone wakes up on turn.

Not worried about asian dude, he could have some crap 2pair, 99, rag set trying to be trixy, badly played AA, KK, etc. hot wife guy is who i'm worried about. does he EVER bet his draws? even if he does, he could just have 99 here.... I get it in just because it's the second nuts.
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Old 08-12-2007, 03:07 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 live: Second nuts, everyone wakes up on turn.

this will be a very productive and thought-provoking thread
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Old 08-12-2007, 03:08 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 live: Second nuts, everyone wakes up on turn.

Although the combinations are lower and despite hot wife guy's solidness, we could also be looking at 99, blank/blank, QJ, JJ, and to a lesser extent 10-10, QQ, or even AQ. How many times have you seen this guy show down his hand in a huge pot? What are the odds of the guy showing up with any of this range versus exactly K-10 ? I call.
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Old 08-12-2007, 03:09 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 live: Second nuts, everyone wakes up on turn.

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Not worried about asian dude, he could have some crap 2pair, 99, rag set trying to be trixy, badly played AA, KK, etc. hot wife guy is who i'm worried about. does he EVER bet his draws? even if he does, he could just have 99 here.... I get it in just because it's the second nuts.

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My $500 bet put Asian dude all in.
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Old 08-12-2007, 03:11 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 live: Second nuts, everyone wakes up on turn.

Strong action, but you still have asian dude crushed in range, and hotwifeguy will have QJ/99/JJ/J9/T8 too often to let it go, pot odds matters here.
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Old 08-12-2007, 03:16 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 live: Second nuts, everyone wakes up on turn.

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How many times have you seen this guy show down his hand in a huge pot?

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I don't think I had seen him show down at this point. He had his stack from before I sat.
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Old 08-12-2007, 03:24 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 live: Second nuts, everyone wakes up on turn.

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How many times have you seen this guy show down his hand in a huge pot?

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I don't think I had seen him show down at this point. He had his stack from before I sat.

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Ok. It doesn't sound like your read is tight enough to make this size of a laydown. I think there is a lot of value in this call as he will have a set often enough, plus the possibility of lesser hands.
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Old 08-12-2007, 03:56 AM
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