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09-24-2007, 09:10 AM
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What do you think about Middle Eastern relations?
How do you feel about your countries political and socio economical relations with the middle east as a whole? Let me know about what you feel your nation is doing right and wrong when it comes to the region.
Please post the nation that you live in in your response. 
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#2
09-24-2007, 01:49 PM
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Re: What do you think about Middle Eastern relations?
America
I am a ME studies major at GW and am currently posting from Cairo, Egypt. As far as I am concerned America should stop all forms of support to Egypt. Egypt is a moderately oppressive pseudo-dictatorship which has the worst of both worlds: a failed socialist system and a militant government. Its amazing how a few weeks here can make you support isolationist policies. As for the rest of the middle east i think America should just come out and say it; you have oil, we need oil, sell it to us fo' cheap or we will take it. It would make things much more interesting. Also America should stop the unquestioning support of israel and Saudi Arabia. this would solve a huge number of problems we face here literally over night. I could go on for a while longer but I wont. what you gonna about it?
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09-24-2007, 04:47 PM
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Re: What do you think about Middle Eastern relations?
Do you take into consideration any religious beliefs for Islam / Jews?
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#4
09-24-2007, 05:32 PM
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Re: What do you think about Middle Eastern relations?
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What do you think about Middle Eastern relations? [/ QUOTE ] I'm no racist, I'd sex a girl from the Middle East. All kidding aside, as an American, I think my country's involvement in the Middle East is about as complicated as the human circulatory system. Getting involved was a horrible idea, not getting involved would have been a horrible idea, staying over there is a horrible idea, leaving would be a horrible idea. Honestly, I'm glad it's not up to me, because I'd hate to have to make some of the hard decisions that, either way, end up killing people. Sometimes I just wish the whole world would wake up tomorrow a completely new, civilized place. But as we've seen in Iraq, that just doesn't happen. I'm reminded of a post here recently from a guy in NY that got a rock thrown at him and his dad by some black kids, which made him wonder if black people were, in fact, the most angry, violent, inconsiderate, etc, people there are. I think the Middle East really shows what angry, violent, inconsiderate people can act like. I mean, I haven't read the entire history of that region, but I'm pretty sure they've all been trying to kill eachother since before America was founded.
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#5
09-24-2007, 08:15 PM
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Re: What do you think about Middle Eastern relations?
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I think the Middle East really shows what angry, violent, inconsiderate people can act like. I mean, I haven't read the entire history of that region, but I'm pretty sure they've all been trying to kill eachother since before America was founded. [/ QUOTE ] It seems you are saying the Middle East has more violence than the rest of the planet. 20th century death tolls: WW1: 15 million Russian Revolution: 9 million Stalin: 20 million WW2: 55 million Mao: 40 million .. and it's the middle eastern people that are inherently violent by nature?
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#6
09-24-2007, 08:19 PM
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Re: What do you think about Middle Eastern relations?
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I think the Middle East really shows what angry, violent, inconsiderate people can act like. I mean, I haven't read the entire history of that region, but I'm pretty sure they've all been trying to kill eachother since before America was founded. [/ QUOTE ] Since before America was founded? They've been killing each other for like 1500 years.
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#7
09-24-2007, 10:38 PM
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Re: What do you think about Middle Eastern relations?
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[ QUOTE ] I think the Middle East really shows what angry, violent, inconsiderate people can act like. I mean, I haven't read the entire history of that region, but I'm pretty sure they've all been trying to kill eachother since before America was founded. [/ QUOTE ] Since before America was founded? They've been killing each other for like 1500 years. [/ QUOTE ] Last I checked..so has the rest of the world. How many millions were killed during the crusades? And prior?
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#8
09-25-2007, 08:24 PM
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Re: What do you think about Middle Eastern relations?
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I'm no racist, I'd sex a girl from the Middle East. [/ QUOTE ] good luck, just dont come to egypt. [ QUOTE ] Sometimes I just wish the whole world would wake up tomorrow a completely new, civilized place. But as we've seen in Iraq, that just doesn't happen. [/ QUOTE ] Civilized to what standards? In egypt I have no fear of being mugged and killed like I do when Im in washington DC. A dark alley in cairo means that it will be harder to see where your going, not a death sentence. Iraq is not a functioning state. It is in a civil war. If you remember history class a lot of uncivilized things happened in the "civilized" USA during our own civil war. [ QUOTE ] I'm reminded of a post here recently from a guy in NY that got a rock thrown at him and his dad by some black kids, which made him wonder if black people were, in fact, the most angry, violent, inconsiderate, etc, people there are. I think the Middle East really shows what angry, violent, inconsiderate people can act like. I mean, I haven't read the entire history of that region, but I'm pretty sure they've all been trying to kill each other since before America was founded. [/ QUOTE ] Seems to me that humanity as a whole has been trying to kill each other since day one. The only difference between a sunni killing someone in Iraq and a US soldier doing the same is that all of our civilized technology has been put into the latter. I guess you need to have a certain level of civilization before you can flatten entire city blocks with an airstrike. Those poor uncivilized bastards, they have to do it the old fashioned way.
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#9
09-25-2007, 08:48 PM
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Re: What do you think about Middle Eastern relations?
U.S.
Dominating the oil reserves is how the US gains leverage over its rivals in East Asia and Europe. The "great game" of empire benefits special interests far, far, more than the lower classes that do the bleeding. Out now! And this business about how "they" have been killing each other for 1500 years is absolute crap. Like Europe, or the Americas, there are plenty of wars and conflicts, but there's also plenty of time when people get along just fine. Wars arise out of history, not some essential trait of Muslims. [ QUOTE ] a big part is that aid to Israel exists in the first place. What are osama'a big complaints? US troops in ME/SA and Israel existing. [/ QUOTE ] You say this as if it is all ancient history that people just will not get over. Plenty of people are resigned to Israel existing, and plenty more would get used to it, if Israel would stop expanding, declare its borders, and respect the property rights of deed holders. The occupation is an endless, current atrocity, not a fait accompli of 1948.
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#10
09-26-2007, 11:36 AM
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Re: What do you think about Middle Eastern relations?
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I'm no racist, I'd sex a girl from the Middle East. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- good luck, just dont come to egypt. [/ QUOTE ] I can imagine Egyptian girls are a tough nut to crack. At this risk of shameless self propotion...I've sexed two Arab girls while in Lebanon. One Shi'a and one Sunni Palestinian. To be fair, the Shi'a was only of the oral variety because we weren't married and she was holding onto the V-card. The Palestinian girl was freaking awesome though.
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