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08-31-2007, 01:51 PM
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Re: Taking a stand with ATs in live 40/80...
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Call the river, period. There is no postive expectation by getting fancy, since there is a lot of money in the pot already. You fail, even if you prevailed in this particular hand. [/ QUOTE ] No you fail. DUCY? I like every street, i cap preflop sometimes too. [/ QUOTE ] No you fail, see the four Jack example in "The Theory of Poker" by David Sklansky. Test your reading comprehension. [/ QUOTE ] Oh my. There is definately some failing going on here... Tricky gambooler type asian males don't like folding. Especially when their opponent's line looks tricky. Villain is folding 0 hands that hero beats, but villian is also folding ~0 hands that he 3-bet with. He's calling with all pairs, lots of aces and if he's running bad or a bit frustrated he's calling with all aces and the occasional K hi. River is a valuetown raise all day long. 
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#2
08-31-2007, 01:56 PM
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Re: Taking a stand with ATs in live 40/80...
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Call the river, period. There is no postive expectation by getting fancy, since there is a lot of money in the pot already. You fail, even if you prevailed in this particular hand. [/ QUOTE ] No you fail. DUCY? I like every street, i cap preflop sometimes too. [/ QUOTE ] No you fail, see the four Jack example in "The Theory of Poker" by David Sklansky. Test your reading comprehension. [/ QUOTE ] Oh my. There is definately some failing going on here... Tricky gambooler type asian males don't like folding. Especially when their opponent's line looks tricky. Villain is folding 0 hands that hero beats, but villian is also folding ~0 hands that he 3-bet with. He's calling with all pairs, lots of aces and if he's running bad or a bit frustrated he's calling with all aces and the occasional K hi. River is a valuetown raise all day long. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, an idiot like that could have a pair of Jacks, or a Q9 or some worse queen. I call the river all day long, no matter what type of fish.
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#3
08-31-2007, 02:01 PM
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Re: Taking a stand with ATs in live 40/80...
I think we should fold a turn K, but otherwise I like the way this hand went.
Taking KT/JT/T9/99/88/77/66/55 to valuetown here seems to be the consensus, but I might add a dissenting opinion that I'm folding to a 3-bet. Specfically that r/f > call > r/c
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#4
08-31-2007, 02:18 PM
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Re: Taking a stand with ATs in live 40/80...
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Call the river, period. There is no postive expectation by getting fancy, since there is a lot of money in the pot already. You fail, even if you prevailed in this particular hand. [/ QUOTE ] No you fail. DUCY? I like every street, i cap preflop sometimes too. [/ QUOTE ] No you fail, see the four Jack example in "The Theory of Poker" by David Sklansky. Test your reading comprehension. [/ QUOTE ] Oh my. There is definately some failing going on here... Tricky gambooler type asian males don't like folding. Especially when their opponent's line looks tricky. Villain is folding 0 hands that hero beats, but villian is also folding ~0 hands that he 3-bet with. He's calling with all pairs, lots of aces and if he's running bad or a bit frustrated he's calling with all aces and the occasional K hi. River is a valuetown raise all day long. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, an idiot like that could have a pair of Jacks, or a Q9 or some worse queen. I call the river all day long, no matter what type of fish. [/ QUOTE ] but there are more combinations of hands we beat then the other way around by the time you get to the river. Raise/fold is fine.
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#5
08-31-2007, 02:20 PM
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Re: Taking a stand with ATs in live 40/80...
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Call the river, period. There is no postive expectation by getting fancy, since there is a lot of money in the pot already. You fail, even if you prevailed in this particular hand. [/ QUOTE ] No you fail. DUCY? I like every street, i cap preflop sometimes too. [/ QUOTE ] No you fail, see the four Jack example in "The Theory of Poker" by David Sklansky. Test your reading comprehension. [/ QUOTE ] Oh my. There is definately some failing going on here... Tricky gambooler type asian males don't like folding. Especially when their opponent's line looks tricky. Villain is folding 0 hands that hero beats, but villian is also folding ~0 hands that he 3-bet with. He's calling with all pairs, lots of aces and if he's running bad or a bit frustrated he's calling with all aces and the occasional K hi. River is a valuetown raise all day long. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, an idiot like that could have a pair of Jacks, or a Q9 or some worse queen. I call the river all day long, no matter what type of fish. [/ QUOTE ] Errr, we aren't raising because he MIGHT have a hand that beats us?
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