We win (AP Scandal v. 27)

[kahntrutahn]

Can someone PM me the date range that this took place? I have a lifelong DB of my play. I however dont feel that graycat/steamroller were cheating the entire time...

I do feel that steamroller cheated me on 8/16/2007 which IIRC is a tad bit before the graycat situation blew up. Can someone in the know about the dates PM me so that I can check my Databases and come up with an accurate figure as to what I was cheated out of?

[NNNNOOOOONAN]

i'm a lifetime winner over a ton of hands at 5/10 LHE at ftp.
and a lifetime loser over a ton of hands at ABS 1/2 LHE.


WAS I CHEATED???

i think so

[Number27]

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Pretty sure it's now time to take a look at the other recent big wins at Absolute Poker.

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Has anyone looked into the Bad Beat Jackpot winners? HUGE cash there.

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How would the ability to see your opponents' cards help you win a BBJ?

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It wouldn't. But if this is all true, whoever did this could have gone after this too. Once I see part of a system comprimised, I think it's worth digging at the other pieces that might be comprimised as well yet undiscovered.

If you can see other hole cards, why couldn't you see what cards are coming -- and use that in a different situation? If the deck is shuffled at the beginning of the hand, someone with complete database access could see the upcoming cards. If, instead, each card is generated at random when shown, this wouldn't be so easy. You'd have to be able to manipulate which card came up.

Yes, these thoughts have no evidence behind them. Yes, I may be paranoid. But maybe it's worth looking into for a few minutes.

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Why don't we just stick to the solid basis of fact that we have? The hand history we have been shown corroborates that the cheater didn't know what cards were coming.

[STA654]

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ABC News story:

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/sto...500&page=1

Not much new here that I saw on a quick scan. Most interesting thing is that Quebec Provincial Police are investigating.

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The ABC News story is also well written. This is receiving good coverage in the MSM.

AP gunna burn.

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fox news is the last resort burning-the-forest-to-save-it-strategy imo imo

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Maybe some of the guys doing the investigation, (Nat, Adanthar) should get into contact with the Quebec Provincial Police?

EDIT: Also noted the heading "Think Online Poker is Safe? Think again." [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

[apefish]

Based on a reply in another thread to something I had posted, I think Adanthar has at times been in contact with people up there.

edit: not necessarily the police, but press/contacts.

[ibluffoldladies]

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ABC News story:

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/sto...500&page=1

Not much new here that I saw on a quick scan. Most interesting thing is that Quebec Provincial Police are investigating.

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The ABC News story is also well written (with the exception of calling AJ Green "AJ Ripper"). This is receiving good coverage in the MSM.

AP gunna burn.

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The article is well written and very detailed.

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The Quebec provincial police told ABC News they were looking into the matter but could not comment on a pending investigation.

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I wonder what authority the provincial police would hold over KGC. I hope they're actually investigating and not looking for hush money.

[Big Limpin]

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Most interesting thing is that Quebec Provincial Police are investigating.

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While this obviously doesn't hurt anything, you should know that the OPP/QPP and the Mohawk nation are not exactly known for cooperating. Don't expect results from the QPP [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

And also stop calling native people 'Indians' already.

[Elusive1]

my 2cents, as a 4 year AP player (if that matters)

ok, so AP releases bits a pieces of information to the public through ABC, MSNBC, Gambling911.com that was not first told to pocketfives and 2p2. They gather everyones responses/reactions (from the board here) to these new bits to figure out exactly which angle the community will accept, they edit their upcomming statement which is now tailored to everyones expectations.

[ur2barredout]

F U AP.. that is all

[jjp]

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And also stop calling native people 'Indians' already.

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http://www.indiangaming.org/

Their term, not ours.