50 NL...I folded a boat

llamage · #1 10-02-2007, 07:27 PM

I understand that 90% of the time, I go broke here. But something just didn't seem right about villain's line. I think he had a higher boat. My thought process:

He's been pretty loose and agressive on the flop. However, he didn't bet the flop, so that indicates something fishy...

If he had AK on the flop, wouldn't he bet to protect?

Furthermore his raise on the river says : I can beat trip 7's...

What do you guys think? I wouldn't normally do this, but for this one particular hand

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($89.25)
BB ($66.90)
UTG ($67.15)
MP ($50)
CO ($49.30)
Button ($62.15)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.50, 2 folds, Button raises to $3.5, Hero calls $3.25, 1 fold, UTG folds.

Flop: ($8) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

Turn: ($8) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $4.5, Button calls $4.50.

River: ($17) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $10.5, Button raises to $35, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $38

Peleus · #2 10-02-2007, 07:35 PM

I'm shoving here every single time. Hate the fold. Sorry.

Don't think yourself out of a hand.

Nairb · #3 10-02-2007, 07:41 PM

Push,push,push. What hands call your pf raise of 6xbb that beat you here? ONly hands that come to mind are 7 7 or K K and if so you were destined to go broke on this hand. Im thinking he either was on a draw and put you on one too and bet you out of the pot or has something like A 7, or hopefully A A and you stack.

If you are beat then thats poker but I would never fold boat without one hell of a read that would tell me otherwise, well even then I would have to at least call to see what he has.

1tripz1 · #4 10-02-2007, 07:42 PM

Sorry but there is no way you can consider folding here.

QuadLaser · #5 10-02-2007, 07:43 PM

a HERO, and I mean HERO play would be to just CALL and get shown a higher boat. Many at-a-boys if that was a correct read. Folding is way way wrong. Some hands that play this way :

A7
10 7
9 7
8 7
7 6
7 5
A K
Q K

and

K K

llamage · #6 10-02-2007, 07:46 PM

you guys forgot about 666 [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

mookboi · #7 10-02-2007, 08:15 PM

As explained before by others, I'm not folding FH here. I also pot it on turn, or bet a little bigger at least.

Unlucky, I guess.

Leviathan101 · #8 10-02-2007, 09:22 PM

You folded a boat?

hope it was a misclick, should be at least calling all day here.

I would say not pushing here is kinda weak but reasonable, but no way you can fold.

Trogdor! · #9 10-02-2007, 09:28 PM

i dont think 50nl is high enough to make these kinds of laydowns without knowing what this guy has eaten for breakfast kind of reads

Ramana · #10 10-02-2007, 09:53 PM

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He's been pretty loose and agressive on the flop. However, he didn't bet the flop, so that indicates something fishy...

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Thats cos he thinks "zomg i have trips i'll tarp that fool". No way you can fold there. During play you get a million of marginal decisions where you can make your heroic laydowns, but not in this spot, you've just thrown away money here.