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Old 03-24-2006, 03:17 AM
tom10167 tom10167 is offline
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Default 10-20 PS 88, how bad was this line?

My only reads on Villain are "stupid" and goes way too far with hands.

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Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG :#A500AF(villain)/ raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">villain bets</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">villain 3-bets</font>, MP2 calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (8.75 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">villain bets</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">villain 3-bets</font>, MP2 folds, Hero calls.

River: (15.75 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">villain bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">villain 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 21 BB
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Old 03-24-2006, 04:21 AM
Joe Tall Joe Tall is offline
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Default Re: 10-20 PS 88, how bad was this line?

Why did you raise the flop? Looks like your the overplaying here.
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Old 03-24-2006, 04:56 AM
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Default Re: 10-20 PS 88, how bad was this line?

depends on how "stupid", and how "way" to far he goes w/ his hands... I mean there are villians I would be willing to value cap this on the turn and river againstw/out boating.... I'm capping this river here every time vs an opponent like this... definitely +ev
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Old 03-24-2006, 04:59 AM
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Default Re: 10-20 PS 88, how bad was this line?

the flop raise is not a bad play w/ the OESD to take a free turn card, happened to backfire, but not a bad play IMO
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Old 03-24-2006, 06:53 AM
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Default Re: 10-20 PS 88, how bad was this line?

PF did you want to let more people in? Did you think by calling you could get 5 or 6 people to the flop? I think it's no and no. I like to 3bet PF, even with the guy inbetween.

On the flop your putting in a lot of bets in a multiway pot with a retarded straight draw.

On the turn you hit a set, yippie, you putting in more bets behind... better get there.

and the board pairs, you finally made the best hand and you only put in 3 bets. I don't like much of anything about this hand. If i'm way off about anything please let me know.
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Old 03-24-2006, 07:05 AM
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Default Re: 10-20 PS 88, how bad was this line?

flop and turn play are quite terrible, river is an easy easy cap, what are u thinking?
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Old 03-24-2006, 11:33 AM
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Default Re: 10-20 PS 88, how bad was this line?

The river is messed up, he bet I raised and he called.

A course I woulda capped. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 03-24-2006, 12:57 PM
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Default Re: 10-20 PS 88, how bad was this line?

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the flop raise is not a bad play w/ the OESD to take a free turn card, happened to backfire, but not a bad play IMO

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You are wrong. It is a bad play. You fail to take into consideration the texture of this flop and the fact that hero's OESD is a one card draw on the ignorant end of a very dangerous board. Hero has a very weak hand on this flop and should not be raising here.
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Old 03-24-2006, 01:09 PM
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Default Re: 10-20 PS 88, how bad was this line?

So what's the best line here? If it was folded to me I insta 3 bet BB was the type that was in for 1 in for 4 type of thing. Let's assume the flatcall is best here
Do you flatcall flop and turn?
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Old 03-24-2006, 01:22 PM
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Default Re: 10-20 PS 88, how bad was this line?

"A course I woulda capped. "

looks to me like you missed a bet on the river ? it says "hero called"
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