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check/call 1 8.33%
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  #1861  
Old 10-22-2007, 04:59 PM
Jbrochu Jbrochu is offline
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$5.50. Very good chance you are ahead here, so you need to protect your hand.

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Ok - ty, that's what I figured. I think I screwed up the river but I would like to hear thoughts without anyone seeing the action first.

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $34.15
UTG: $24.80
Hero (CO): $29.85
BTN: $22.45
SB: $11.65

Pre-Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1</font>, BTN calls $1, 2 folds

Flop: ($2.35) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $2.25</font>, BTN calls $2.25

Turn: ($6.85) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $6</font>, BTN calls $6

River: ($18.85) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero...?</font>
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Old 10-22-2007, 05:01 PM
Slim Pickens Slim Pickens is offline
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

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Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $34.15
UTG: $24.80
Hero (CO): $29.85
BTN: $22.45
SB: $11.65

Pre-Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1</font>, BTN calls $1, 2 folds

Flop: ($2.35) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $2.25</font>, BTN calls $2.25

Turn: ($6.85) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero...?</font>


No reads yet.

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Given no reads, I wouldn't think the typical NL25 player is sophisticated to call the flop and semi-bluff raise the turn with a draw. That seems to mean keep betting. A call means you're ahead of a [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] draw + OC and a raise means he flopped the nuts. It seems hard for him to have a 3 here.
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Old 10-22-2007, 05:32 PM
dipstikdave dipstikdave is offline
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

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$5.50. Very good chance you are ahead here, so you need to protect your hand.

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Ok - ty, that's what I figured. I think I screwed up the river but I would like to hear thoughts without anyone seeing the action first.

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $34.15
UTG: $24.80
Hero (CO): $29.85
BTN: $22.45
SB: $11.65

Pre-Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1</font>, BTN calls $1, 2 folds

Flop: ($2.35) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $2.25</font>, BTN calls $2.25

Turn: ($6.85) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $6</font>, BTN calls $6

River: ($18.85) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero...?</font>

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i doubt you're ahead on the turn very often, you're losing to every pp and aren't a big fav to any combo draw. slim is right when he says typical nl25ers won't bluff the turn, but they will call with hands that beat you, so i would c/f.
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  #1864  
Old 10-22-2007, 05:44 PM
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

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$5.50. Very good chance you are ahead here, so you need to protect your hand.

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Ok - ty, that's what I figured. I think I screwed up the river but I would like to hear thoughts without anyone seeing the action first.

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $34.15
UTG: $24.80
Hero (CO): $29.85
BTN: $22.45
SB: $11.65

Pre-Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1</font>, BTN calls $1, 2 folds

Flop: ($2.35) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $2.25</font>, BTN calls $2.25

Turn: ($6.85) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $6</font>, BTN calls $6

River: ($18.85) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero...?</font>

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i doubt you're ahead on the turn very often, you're losing to every pp and aren't a big fav to any combo draw. slim is right when he says typical nl25ers won't bluff the turn, but they will call with hands that beat you, so i would c/f.

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Well, you heard from bet/fold and check/fold. Now you're hearing from check/call. Bet/call probably isn't coming and bet3bet is AWOL.

(depends on villian - going readless as stated)
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  #1865  
Old 10-22-2007, 06:17 PM
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

I c/c river. Looks like a draw too often for me to fold and there aren't a lot of worse hands that can call you on the river.
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Old 10-22-2007, 06:50 PM
DevinLake DevinLake is offline
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

Just sat so I don't have stats on the guy.

But, he's played every hand and already stacked me once.

He called 25bbs preflop with ATs and stacked me when he turned a flush and I had JJ. So, his range preflop seems to be close to ATC, especially when he posted out of turn.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Hero ($403.60)
MP ($384)
CO ($1168)
Button ($414)
SB ($514)
BB ($404)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $6.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $20</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO (poster) calls $16, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Flop: ($48) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $40</font>, CO calls $40.

Turn: ($128) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $100</font>, CO calls $100.

River: ($328) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero ????
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  #1867  
Old 10-22-2007, 07:06 PM
Scuba Chuck Scuba Chuck is offline
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

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First orbit at the table... no history with SB. This is totally standard, yes?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $119.50
UTG+1: $38.65
CO: $93.65
Hero: $98.50
SB: $52.75
BB: $100.50

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $3</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($9, 3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $6</font>, SB folds, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $27</font>, Hero folds.

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Seems good with no reads yet.

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Seems good WITH a read.
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Old 10-22-2007, 07:11 PM
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

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First orbit at the table... no history with SB. This is totally standard, yes?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $119.50
UTG+1: $38.65
CO: $93.65
Hero: $98.50
SB: $52.75
BB: $100.50

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $3</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($9, 3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $6</font>, SB folds, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $27</font>, Hero folds.

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Seems good with no reads yet.

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Seems good WITH a read.

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It is close imo. Unknown full stacker I'd go with a fold, but unknown with some amount less that means he's not a full stacker (e.g. $75) and I'll probably go with it.

It is just a little weird for him to flat a big ace pre and then c/r on the flop.
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Old 10-22-2007, 07:58 PM
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

Villian is 53/7. Comments on all streets please.


Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

MP: $18.35
CO: $50
BTN: $56.30
SB: $87.45
Hero (BB): $69.55
UTG: $75.45

Pre-Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
4 folds, SB calls $0.25, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.50</font>, SB calls $2

Flop: ($5) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $3.50</font>, SB calls $3.50

Turn: ($12) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $8</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $16</font>, Hero calls $8

River: ($44) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $17</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $47.55 and is All-In[/color
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Old 10-22-2007, 08:02 PM
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

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1) I'd check pre-flop

2) As played, flop is fine

3) Turn I'd probably check behind, but I guess you're fine.

4) A big "WTF" at river.
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