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Old 10-01-2007, 08:06 PM
tcorbin16 tcorbin16 is offline
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Default Re: Hand Against Rugby: 100/200. I\'m not telling you what I have yet

for the original hand that FWF posted... i like GP's post the most... i think the 3 bet shove is the illest.
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Old 10-02-2007, 02:23 AM
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Default Re: Hand Against Rugby: 100/200. I\'m not telling you what I have yet

with FWFs image shoving as a bluff is horrible
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Old 10-02-2007, 03:29 AM
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Default Re: Hand Against Rugby: 100/200. I\'m not telling you what I have yet

[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] turn changes a lot, but I still don't think he's bluffing very often. I think it significantly changes the range of hands he can raise for value.

For that reason I think a JQ is now definitely a call and a lone J is really close/tough.
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Old 10-02-2007, 06:13 AM
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Default Re: Hand Against Rugby: 100/200. I\'m not telling you what I have yet

I'd put you on JJ, and Townsend on A2-A6 of spades.
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Old 10-04-2007, 01:32 PM
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Default Re: Hand Against Rugby: 100/200. I\'m not telling you what I have yet

I haven't seen the results but could someone edit the initial hand so that I can see the correct betsizes ?
Are the river betsizes correct?
I don't know how Aba changes his calling range in BB on higher limits against thougher opponents but if he is playing somewhere near his cardrunners style I doubt he is calling here with a hand like As2s or 2s3s and if you raise your hand from the CO or Button I would assume he reraises pf with a hand like AsKs-AsJs, KsQs maybe even KsJs (AsTs) so that only leaves us with few combinations.If indeed the flush came in on the turn that chances the hand quite a bit. How often is he donking the flush here? You think he will try to check-raise the turn and after that fails tries it again on the river ? Would you check behind on the turn with a strong flush? Obviously not with a weakish one or do you change it up from time to time? I think he would believe you would bet a weak flush on the turn therefore you can only have a strong flush or no flush at all. I think you still need to call with QJ here because there is a slight chance he thinks you either have a monster or might fold a Jack and worse so a bluff has more expected value. You think he would try to get you off a Split Jack all that often? If so then calling a bare jack might be ok as well, otherwise I would dump it. I also think that calling a 6 isn't good anymore. I like the idea of a shove but I would much rather do that with AsX or a pure bluff than QJ.

I call but wouldn't feel too good about it
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Old 10-06-2007, 01:47 AM
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Default Re: Hand Against Rugby: 100/200. I\'m not telling you what I have yet

Results? Can anyone post the hh?
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Old 10-06-2007, 08:54 AM
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Do you think he might of turned his hand into a bluff on the river? With the As? He is very capable of making this play with the nut blocker. Your hand looks like AJ-AK or a small flush.
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Old 10-06-2007, 10:41 AM
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Default Re: Hand Against Rugby: 100/200. I\'m not telling you what I have yet

this post hurts my eyes
vague details are givin about total situation
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Old 10-07-2007, 07:19 AM
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Old 10-07-2007, 09:49 PM
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Default Re: Hand Against Rugby: 100/200. I\'m not telling you what I have yet

results??????????
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