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09-24-2007, 08:30 PM
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Re: New York City bans trans fats
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You realize that Upton Sinclair was a socialist with a specific agenda when he wrote The Jungle, right? And that many parts are simply not accurate? [/ QUOTE ] setting aside the mad cow issue, do you think things were better back then, or now? 
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#112
09-24-2007, 08:41 PM
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Re: New York City bans trans fats
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setting aside the mad cow issue, do you think things were better back then, or now? [/ QUOTE ] what does this have to do with this [ QUOTE ] You realize that Upton Sinclair was a socialist with a specific agenda when he wrote The Jungle, right? And that many parts are simply not accurate? [/ QUOTE ]
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#113
09-24-2007, 08:55 PM
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Re: New York City bans trans fats
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] well one major difference is that sugar is a food. [/ QUOTE ] Both sugars and fats are food. [/ QUOTE ] trans fats are not found in nature. bubbling hydrogen through oil to create a manufactured substance is not the same thing as food. [/ QUOTE ] Refined processed sugars are not found in nature either.
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#116
09-24-2007, 09:38 PM
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[ QUOTE ] Refined processed sugars are not found in nature either. [/ QUOTE ] refined sugar is chemically equivalent to the unprocessed sugar in cane and beet and stuff. [/ QUOTE ] You have completely jumped the shark at this point. "Trans fats aren't food, they're not natural." This is completely irrational, poorly conceived attempt to make a special case out of transfats because your logic, generally applied, has been a total failure. Trans fats are a food with adverse long term health affects that can be considered (or dismissed) when choosing to eat it or not eat it. That's all it is. If anything, alcohol "isn't food" - it's a friggin poison. And it's addictive. And it makes many people act dangerously. Where is the disdain? Where is the ban? Where is lament for the poor souls taken advantage of by the Big Bad Companies that sell alcohol? Let me guess - you like alcohol and don't want it to be taken away. God, people like you make me sound like pvn.
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#117
09-24-2007, 09:40 PM
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Re: New York City bans trans fats
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[ QUOTE ] Refined processed sugars are not found in nature either. [/ QUOTE ] refined sugar is chemically equivalent to the unprocessed sugar in cane and beet and stuff. [/ QUOTE ] If you would please quote the whole quote, like I have been doing (up 'til now, that is, because it is getting tiresome going back and piecing together what you have unpieced; just hit the quote button and it is done easily); that way our whole discussion will hang together better? Thanks. Sugars and fats are groups. Transfats and refined sugars are both subgroups. Neither transfats nor refined sugars are good for you, and both of them are bad for you. Refined sugars impact the body differently than do some unrefined sugars. Some sugars found in foods cause a hefty insulin response whereas others do not. Some fats found in foods tend to clog arteries whereas others do not. Generally speaking, processed fats and sugars tend to be worse for you than the unprocessed version. Neither refined sugars nor transfats occur naturally in nature. Some people like the taste of sugars and some people like the taste of fats. Many people like the taste of both. There is probably about as much reason to ban refined sugar as there is to ban transfats. Both will harm your health and perhaps even take years off your life if you eat them a lot. And it is a personal preference whether someone likes sweets better than greasy foods. French fries and greasy pizza are very popular and so are muffins, candy bars and Danish pastries. If NYC is banning transfats they might as well be consistent about it and ban refined sugars. Consumption of refined sugars contributes heavily towards tooth decay, the onset of diabetes, obesity, hypoglycemia, and it overworks and harms the pancreas, and causes other health problems. excerpt: "The simple truth is that refined sugars, also known as simple sugars, break down too quickly into glucose in our small intestine and are too rapidly absorbed into our bloodstream, causing a condition known as hyperglycemia, or what is often referred to as a "sugar high." It's the job of our pancreas to control blood-sugar levels by producing insulin, a substance which transports glucose to our cells for energy, and any excess to our livers for storage as glycogen. With an influx of rapidly absorbed simple sugars, the pancreas overproduces insulin to protect our brain and other vital organs from sugar overdose. This rapid overproduction of insulin, which is triggered by refined sugar, soon results in too much sugar being removed from the blood. The result is a low-blood-sugar condition known as hypoglycemia – also referred to as the "sugar blues." At this point, our adrenal glands secrete a hormone that changes the stored glycogen into glucose to raise our blood-sugar levels again. Over time, this up and down roller coaster of metabolic needs due to the fluctuations of sugar ingestion leads to overtaxed, worn-out adrenal glands, liver, and pancreas. "If your pancreas is forced to overproduce insulin for an extended period of time (20-30 years)," observes Dr. Gordon Tessler, "you run the risk of damaging the insulin producing mechanism." Diabetes, the third-leading disease in this country behind heart disease and cancer, is in many cases due to a pancreas that is not producing enough insulin, having been exhausted by long-time consumption of simple or refined sugars. " The article goes on to describe how ingesting refined processed sugars actually causes the leaching or stealing of nutrients from the rest of your body in order to handle the processing of the concentrated sugar. Nutrition and Diet
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09-24-2007, 10:40 PM
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Quote: trans fats are not found in nature. Wrong. [/ QUOTE ] not wrong at all. humans didn't eat transfats until about a centruy ago. perhaps they occur in nature in micro amounts, like in meat as it goes bad or something, but that's it. name a natural source of trans fats that people eat if you can.
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