Aces up weird action

[NinaWilliams]

Villain is 35/19 and seems pretty bad. Hes made some strange donks such as K5 on a T46 board and bet all 3 streets UI.

Absolute Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $3/$6
5 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is UTG with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, 3 folds, BB calls.

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4.67SB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3.33BB, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

River: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5.33BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, Hero

[yourface]

raise the flop. you are ahead like 90% of the time, probably more given your read

definitely call the river

[sethypooh21]

Calls. This is a pretty fugly board, and I'd hate to get 3-bet. Folding is obviously terrible.

I assume you called the flop intending to raise a non-spade turn, right?

[sethypooh21]

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raise the flop. you are ahead like 90% of the time, probably more given your read

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I dunno, given villain's description, I think there's often more value in waiting til the turn - if villain is FOSH, raising the flop allows him to play perfectly for not very much, and the pot isn't big enough for you to really happy if he just folds his single spade. If there was a player to act behind hero, obviously raise

[ILOVEPOKER929]

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raise the flop. you are ahead like 90% of the time, probably more given your read

definitely call the river

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I think raising the flop would be pretty horrible here.

[yourface]

that's a pretty strong sentiment. why?

I think waiting until the turn is good too, any maybe better, but I don't see how raising the flop is horrible.

edit:
I agree waiting until the turn is better
horrible just seemed like pretty strong wording for what is usually a 1SB difference. not many villains will double barrel this board as a total bluff

[sethypooh21]

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that's a pretty strong sentiment. why?

I think waiting until the turn is good too, any maybe better, but I don't see how raising the flop is horrible.

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Wins the least when ahead, especially where villain is drawing slim/dead (e.g. Ax where x&lt;9), and loses you more when behind. Plus raising the turn charges lone spade draws more.

[ILOVEPOKER929]

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that's a pretty strong sentiment. why?

I think waiting until the turn is good too, any maybe better, but I don't see how raising the flop is horrible.

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Against a guy that will bet nothing on the flop and potentially bet nothing all the way raising the flop is the last thing you want to do. The strategic choice in this hand is whether the hero should raise a nonspade turn or simply call the turn and raise a nonspade river. Which line is optimal depends largely on how often the villain will have a no pair/no draw type of hand and also how often the villain will bluff the river if we just call the turn. Raising the flop just lets these habitual donk with nothing people off the hook.