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Old 11-12-2007, 10:44 PM
thehilostud thehilostud is offline
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Default Will somebody run a Wilson Turbo Sim for me?

I don't own Wilson Turbo Omaha 8/B and it would be stupid to spend $50 on it for
what I want to know. Could one of you out there who owns it run a Sim for me?

I'd like to see how Florida's limit stakes hold up in the long term. Limit Hold
em' I think is unbeatable with a rake. However, I have a friend who has done
well over the last month at the 2/4 with a $5 kill Omaha 8/b at the Hard Rock.

Rake is $5 max. 10%. $1 Jackpot. Tip the dealer say.... $1 when the pot is over
$50. Kill pot is a scoop over $40.

Please post the results for 100k hands.
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Old 11-13-2007, 12:09 AM
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Default Re: Will somebody run a Wilson Turbo Sim for me?

Hi thehilostud - So far as I know, a simulator won't give you the information you seek. At least if it does, I don't know how to use it get that information.

I remember when I was trying to figure out what a good hand would be, sitting down at the dining room table with a deck of cards, some chips, and a pencil and writing tablet. It was before I had ever played poker in a casino.

I dealt out eight hands one thousand times, keeping track of what won and what almost won for both high and low. It took me a couple of days. I wanted to know what to play and what to avoid playing. I also wanted to know how often to expect a low split and a few other specifics. 1000 eight handed deals gave me a feeling. My wife thought I was nuts.

I had, at that point never heard of a simulator.

Now it takes a few minutes to have the simulator deal out a hundred thousand hands and keep better track of the results than I did. Or I can specify a certain hand or hands and/or flop and know in a few minutes what's good and what's not good. And there is other information that simulated deals can provide.

But so far as I know, the simulator doesn't tell you how Florida's limit stakes hold up in the long term.

Buzz
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Old 11-13-2007, 01:04 AM
thehilostud thehilostud is offline
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Default Re: Will somebody run a Wilson Turbo Sim for me?

I believe it has a setting that will show a tight player versus 9 loose players and a setting for passive loose. It takes into account rake and tips based on a custom set-up. The program is designed to solve this exact problem.

The issue isn't skill. I've been beating middle limit O8/B for years. I just want to know what the expectation should be with one tight player and 9 fish..... My plan is to teach someone limit at Hard Rock. I just need to find out if it's a beatable game.
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Old 11-13-2007, 01:12 AM
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Default Re: Will somebody run a Wilson Turbo Sim for me?

u aren't going to beat 2/4 with a $6 rake and $1 tip over the long term
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Old 11-13-2007, 05:04 AM
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Default Re: Will somebody run a Wilson Turbo Sim for me?

[ QUOTE ]
I believe it has a setting that will show a tight player versus 9 loose players and a setting for passive loose.

[/ QUOTE ]Hi thehilostud - I could put a tight player in seat 10 and loose passive players in the other nine seats, and then have a hundred thousand random hands dealt.

I'll do that for you. O.K. The sim is running. Four minutes to wait. I put C. Chan in seat 10 and Chasin' Charlie in the other nine seats. I guess we'll see if C.Chan ends up with a positive total. I think he probably will.

Indeed, he does. +$130,971. The nine Chasin' Charlies lost a total of -$760,670, an average of about $84.5K each.

I guess that shows you can beat the rake, even in a 2/4 game with a 10% rake, if your opponents play badly enough.

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Old 11-13-2007, 10:41 AM
thehilostud thehilostud is offline
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Default Re: Will somebody run a Wilson Turbo Sim for me?

Thank You very much for taking your time out to do it. Cheers!
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Old 11-13-2007, 01:31 PM
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Default Re: Will somebody run a Wilson Turbo Sim for me?

10%rake??? 4 real???
and i used to gripe about the 3.00 button time charge back home in San Jose,CA...
yikes.
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