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Old 10-03-2007, 01:38 AM
mce86 mce86 is offline
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Default NL 200..Getting Killed

Ive gotten killed the past 12000 hands for 15 buy ins...anyone going through this...Im ready to join the poker is rigged bandwagon soon!! Did I mention ive been making two 500 dollar withdrawals during this time??? I really feel snake bitten. Any suggestions on getting trough this?
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($152.85)
SB ($410.20)
BB ($164.40)
UTG ($803.35)
UTG+1 ($164.45)
MP1 ($200)
MP2 ($226.15)
MP3 ($56.10)
CO ($200)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, MP3 calls $2, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $8</font>, Hero calls $8, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP3 folds.

Flop: ($21) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
CO checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($21) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $15</font>, CO calls $15.

River: ($51) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $51</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $102</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $180.85 (All-In)</font>, CO calls $27.85.

Final Pot: $310.70

Next hand...
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

BB ($103.95)
UTG ($308.15)
UTG+1 ($404.75)
Hero ($194.80)
MP2 ($62)
MP3 ($190)
CO ($200)
Button ($251.20)
SB ($170.55)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with , .
[color=#666666]2 folds</font>, [color=#CC3333]Hero raises to $4</font>, [color=#666666]1 fold</font>, MP3 calls $4, CO calls $4, Button calls $4, [color=#666666]1 fold</font>, BB calls $2.

Flop: ($21) , , [color=#0000FF](5 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks, MP3 checks, CO checks, [color=#CC3333]Button bets $15</font>, BB folds, Hero calls $15, MP3 folds, CO folds.

Turn: ($51) [color=#0000FF](2 players)</font>
Hero checks, [color=#CC3333]Button bets $22</font>, [color=#CC3333]Hero raises to $117</font>, Button calls $95.

River: ($285) [color=#0000FF](2 players)</font>
Hero checks, [color=#CC3333]Button bets $60</font>, Hero calls $58.80 (All-In).

Final Pot: $402.61

Results in white below: [color=#FFFFFF]
Hero has Kd Kh (full house, fours full of kings).
Button has 4s 5d (four of a kind, fours).
Outcome: Button wins $403.79. </font>

Next Hand...
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

UTG ($223.65)
UTG+1 ($132)
MP1 ($341.05)
Hero ($122.55)
MP3 ($243.70)
CO ($62.25)
Button ($196)
SB ($235.25)
BB ($235.35)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with , .
[color=#666666]1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $2, [color=#CC3333]MP1 raises to $9</font>, Hero calls $9, [color=#666666]5 folds</font>, UTG+1 folds.

Flop: ($23) , , [color=#0000FF](2 players)</font>
[color=#CC3333]MP1 bets $10</font>, Hero calls $10.

Turn: ($43) [color=#0000FF](2 players)</font>
[color=#CC3333]MP1 bets $16</font>, [color=#CC3333]Hero raises to $35</font>, MP1 calls $19.

River: ($113) [color=#0000FF](2 players)</font>
MP1 checks, [color=#CC3333]Hero bets $68.55 (All-In)</font>, MP1 calls $68.55.

Final Pot: $250.10

Results in white below: [color=#FFFFFF]
MP1 has Ah Ad (four of a kind, aces).
Hero has 5s 5h (full house, fives full of aces).
Outcome: MP1 wins $250.10. </font>

Next Hand....
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($169.50)
SB ($207.15)
BB ($203.35)
UTG ($99.15)
UTG+1 ($427.55)
MP1 ($38)
MP2 ($193)
Hero ($189)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls $2, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls $2, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $11</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $9, UTG calls $9, Hero calls $9.

Flop: ($45) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $2</font>, BB folds, UTG folds, Hero calls $2.

Turn: ($49) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button checks.

River: ($49) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $176 (All-In)</font>, Button calls $156.50 (All-In).

Final Pot: $362

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Ah 9h (full house, aces full of jacks).
Button has Jd Jc (four of a kind, jacks).
Outcome: Button wins $362. Hero wins $19.50. </font>
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Old 10-03-2007, 01:51 AM
Ron Burgundy Ron Burgundy is offline
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Default Re: NL 200..Getting Killed

Did you srsly minraise KK, and then c/c the flop when it was multiway? My advice to you is move down. You're not good enough to beat 200nl, probably not even 100nl.
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Old 10-03-2007, 01:56 AM
five4suited five4suited is offline
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Default Re: NL 200..Getting Killed

Coolers are coolers, there's nothing you can do. That guy turns over a Q instead of the case 4 if you're not running bad, too.

Otherwise... variance is a [censored] bitch.

The sick hot streaks unfortunately have evil twins.
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Old 10-03-2007, 02:01 AM
king_nothing_ king_nothing_ is offline
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Default Re: NL 200..Getting Killed

1st hand: should've re-raised PF.
2nd hand: should've raised more PF, and should've bet the flop.
4th hand: should've folded PF.
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Old 10-03-2007, 02:07 AM
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Default Re: NL 200..Getting Killed

love the KK minraise cc flop combo
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Old 10-03-2007, 02:14 AM
mce86 mce86 is offline
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Default Re: NL 200..Getting Killed

I knew i f'd that one up...I checked cuz I figured i screwed myslef...then the other 4 popped....and i still screwed myself!!
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Old 10-03-2007, 03:06 AM
Kos13 Kos13 is offline
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Default Re: NL 200..Getting Killed

Why are you open-shoving the river for 19x the pot with an ace on an AAJJ2 board? What do you think pays you off that you beat? Make a friggin' value bet, not a ridiculous shove that only gets called by chops and quads.

Also, KK hand just flat out sucks.
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Old 10-03-2007, 07:05 AM
BlueBear BlueBear is offline
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Default Re: NL 200..Getting Killed

Yup, I agree with the brutal but honest advice here. Move down, these hands are just critically misplayed.
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Old 10-03-2007, 11:20 AM
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Default Re: NL 200..Getting Killed

I think you need to bet the flop in hand one, and go into slowdown mode if called. Fold obv to any raise.

For the love of God bet the flop in hand 2.

The 55 hand, you called for set value, you got your set. Raise flop and reload.

The A9 hand--that is not the flop you are looking for when you call with a suited A multiway. I would be tempted to raise that weak button bet and fold to his shove. You can raise to approx pot and still not commit yourself.
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