last one for now, bottom set runner runner makes scary board

[Speedlimits]

bet more on turn

c/f river

[Nicefingcatch]

I would have played it like you did OP.

[terp]

b/f river

lot of ways for him to have a T guys but lot of ways for him to have a calling hand too

[Beanos]

I like bet fold riv

[Mike MacIntosh]

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c/c is crap...

b/f or c/f... not the spot to c/c at all

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not to knock u ike, ur usually a good poster, and player, but this reponse sucks ass.

explain why, not just for me but for others too, like c/c isnt good here because we lose so much value against hands we beat. there is no way a Q is going to value bet this river because of how scary it is now. so we lose all the value against the hands we beat and we call away chips against hands that beat us. if we bet in this spot we have an easy fold if he raises because the board is so wet that it would be hard for him to be bluff raising worse. given your read that he chases gutshots, if he raises your bet on the river we can safely fold.

^^^^^^^^^^^^ = c/c is crap b/f or c/f... not the spot to c/c at all

i think,
thx for the response

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Winner. c/c would gain a ton of value on this river, if we had a read that said villain likes to bluff a high % of the time. By default most villains simply are checking behind a good amount of hands here that would have called a reasonable river bet, betting hands that have us crushed, and not bluffing very often. Therefore c/c represents the worst option in these spots w/o more of a feel on a particular opponent. Which we obviously don't have very often.

[the machine]

i def thought bet fold was the best line, and at the time i was running like crap so i went with the tiltless showdown and c/c. he had 109.

[early325]

b/f

you prob see QT/9T here a lot though