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11-18-2007, 06:07 PM
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Re: How Kenny Tran Rates Internet Players
i also think cts, sbrugy, pa, and durrrr and other internet nl players should take turns playing kenny tran hu and see what happens
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11-18-2007, 06:12 PM
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Re: How Kenny Tran Rates Internet Players
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some great posts in this thread [/ QUOTE ] it will only get worse from here imo
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11-18-2007, 06:41 PM
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Re: How Kenny Tran Rates Internet Players
In the high stakes games I think the biggest difference between online and live is the fact that online players have much better tools to analyze their games. If a live player starts loosing, how on earth do they fix it? Seems impossible to me. I have had extended periods of losing at 5 10 NL and 10 20 NL that I know I would not have been able to fix without HH's and poker tracker. I accept that these live players may be much better then me, but their games are also tougher.
Also I think we can be very sure about how good online players are due to the vast amounts of data available. You could make a good argument based on data who the top 10 online players are. For a live player we have to resort to gossip and second hand stories. The error bars on how good a live player is would be huge. I could see them being much better or much worse than their online counterparts. (If i had to gamble I would pick the online guys though)
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11-18-2007, 06:52 PM
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Re: How Kenny Tran Rates Internet Players
Three points:
It's probable that the internet players Tran has played with are not the very best internet players. I doubt he's played with durrr, bld, or cts, for example. His idea of an internet player might be someone like Thomas Wahlroos. The main problem with internet vs live discussions is that online players have a much larger sample size and are better able to assess skill statistically, while live players by necessity have to rely on anecdotal or statistically insignificant evidence for claims of superiority or inferiority. On the other hand, long-run results aren't the only determinant of skill; experienced live players can probably much more quickly (in terms of number of hands) determine what an opponent's strategy is, and identify holes in it. This advantage still is affected by the much smaller sample size, although not as much. David, this thread would be much more successful if posted in hsnl. The online players most capable of discussing this do not post much in nvg!
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