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Old 07-29-2007, 10:10 PM
ManChild ManChild is offline
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Default 200nl, wierd spot with rivered trips

Villian is unknown, I can see an argument for either call or raise here, but what I'm having trouble with is putting this guy on a range.
Does Jx check the whole way til the river?
Does he play a flopped set like this?
Did he maybe make a straight with 57?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($193.75)
CO ($312.15)
Button ($247.45)
SB ($107)
Hero ($209.15)
UTG ($208.35)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls $2, Button calls $2, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero checks.

Flop: ($7) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, CO checks, Button checks.

Turn: ($7) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, CO checks, Button checks.

River: ($7) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $6</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $16</font>, Button folds, Hero ???
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Old 07-30-2007, 12:48 PM
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Default Re: 200nl, wierd spot with rivered trips

any opinions?
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Old 07-30-2007, 01:00 PM
Michaelson Michaelson is offline
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Default Re: 200nl, wierd spot with rivered trips

I call just because it's a limped pot. Villain is clearly terrible, though. Most likely holdings in my view are 56, 67 or A6, and possibly a jack that he thought he was slowplaying or something. He doesn't have a set or the straight often at all. Anyway, if you raise, you'll definitely get called by 6s you beat, but they could also re-raise if he's real bad, which means that if you get re-popped you could easily get stacked by a boat/better six because I think you'd have to call based on apparent retardedness of villain... Maybe not actually, most retards won't go THAT ballistic with weak trips here.

I dunno, I hate these spots and I suck at working them out. You can't put him on a range because there's been no action to base a decision on. That's probably the best reason why I just call.
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Old 07-30-2007, 01:01 PM
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Default Re: 200nl, wierd spot with rivered trips

Dont wanna be a dick, but since you are not folding and your hand is to weak to reraise, just call.
Honestly i don't even think you're ahead most of the time, but heck, you got trips, its cheap, so call.
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Old 07-30-2007, 01:06 PM
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Default Re: 200nl, wierd spot with rivered trips

reraising is awful
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Old 07-30-2007, 01:08 PM
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Default Re: 200nl, wierd spot with rivered trips

You're asking yourself the wrong question here...

The correct questions are:

If I raise, which worse hands will call?
Will he fold a better six?

The answers are likely none and no, therefore calling is probably best. You can be pretty sure that he'll only call a reraise with hands that crush you here. You're priced in to call here, especially if you think he can do this with a jack, so call.
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Old 07-30-2007, 01:15 PM
ChoicestHops ChoicestHops is offline
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Default Re: 200nl, wierd spot with rivered trips

Open limp from the CO. Donk probably slowplayed trips or a straight. Or he could just think you are trying to buy the pot, who knows. I just call I think.
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Old 07-30-2007, 01:19 PM
Michaelson Michaelson is offline
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Default Re: 200nl, wierd spot with rivered trips

[ QUOTE ]
You're asking yourself the wrong question here...

The correct questions are:

If I raise, which worse hands will call?
Will he fold a better six?

The answers are likely none and no, therefore calling is probably best. You can be pretty sure that he'll only call a reraise with hands that crush you here. You're priced in to call here, especially if you think he can do this with a jack, so call.

[/ QUOTE ]

I agree in general, but no one ever folds trips, and some trips have lower kickers than a 9, so I think there are hands we beat that can call a re-raise here. I also think that 56/67 (along with A6) are more likely to open limp in the CO than T6 or Q6. 46/86 are somewhat likely open limping hands as well, but they probably bet earlier in the hand.

Anyway, my point is that I think here it's somewhat close between the hands that we beat and call, and the hands that beat us. The real problem with raising, in my view, is re-opening up the betting, cause I don't want to be bet off my hand by some spanker who open limps in the cutoff and overvalues 56 in this spot.
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Old 07-30-2007, 01:36 PM
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Default Re: 200nl, wierd spot with rivered trips

We have a strong hand..folding is out of the question.

We don't have reasosn to believe he will pay us off light and a reraise means a lot of strenght here.

Just call.
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Old 07-30-2007, 02:13 PM
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Default Re: 200nl, wierd spot with rivered trips

call.. this is a spot where bad players often try to make a move,so folding is out of question
dont like rereraise, because mostly better hands will call you.
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