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Ro. Williams @ MIn 12 25.00%
E. Kennison @ Ari 5 10.42%
H. Ward @ SD 7 14.58%
A. Bryant Vs Oak 10 20.83%
R. Brown Vs Dal 3 6.25%
Re. Williams Vs NYJ 10 20.83%
M. Furrey @ Min 1 2.08%
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Old 09-17-2007, 03:18 AM
Heisenb3rg Heisenb3rg is offline
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How big a difference is .25/.5 from say 2/4 in terms of play? Just a lot more aggressive?

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Way less donks, more skilled players and much more agressive....

Not sure about that jump, cause I started at 1/2.. But every single limit jump, theres a corresponding jump in agression...

From my experience the toughest jump was from 3/6 to 5/10 because thats around the time you need to really start learning blind defense and blind attacking, because multiway pots and 70 VPIPS are much rarer.

Easiest was surprisngly 5/10 to 10/20...
Altho im still not good at dealing with a 10/20 table full of spew monkies that know how to play poker..
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Old 09-17-2007, 03:23 AM
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andwhatthen: Jh Kh
claussdaddy: -- --
dirtybird81: -- --

Pre-flop:

dirtybird81 raises to $6. andwhatthen re-raises to
$9. claussdaddy calls. dirtybird81 calls.

Flop (board: Ks Kc Ah):

andwhatthen bets $3. claussdaddy calls. dirtybird81
calls.

Turn (board: Ks Kc Ah Kd):

andwhatthen bets $6. claussdaddy calls. dirtybird81
calls.

River (board: Ks Kc Ah Kd As):

andwhatthen bets $6. claussdaddy calls. dirtybird81
calls.



Showdown:

andwhatthen shows Jh Kh.
andwhatthen has Kh Ks Kc Ah Kd: four kings.
claussdaddy mucks cards.
(claussdaddy has 5d Ad.)
dirtybird81 mucks cards.
(dirtybird81 has 3s Ac.)

THREE HANDED SHOULDNT I WIN APPROXIMATELY 130403405345 MORE BETS?!?
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Old 09-17-2007, 03:28 AM
thepizzlefosho thepizzlefosho is offline
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How big a difference is .25/.5 from say 2/4 in terms of play? Just a lot more aggressive?

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Way less donks, more skilled players and much more agressive....

Not sure about that jump, cause I started at 1/2.. But every single limit jump, theres a corresponding jump in agression...

From my experience the toughest jump was from 3/6 to 5/10 because thats around the time you need to really start learning blind defense and blind attacking, because multiway pots and 70 VPIPS are much rarer.

Easiest was surprisngly 5/10 to 10/20...
Altho im still not good at dealing with a 10/20 table full of spew monkies that know how to play poker..

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I totally agree with all of the above. I really struggled with the jump from 3/6 to 5/10 for awhile. But once I figured it out I'm finding the jump to 10/20 to be relatively easy.
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Old 09-17-2007, 03:29 AM
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How big a difference is .25/.5 from say 2/4 in terms of play? Just a lot more aggressive?

[/ QUOTE ]

Way less donks, more skilled players and much more agressive....

Not sure about that jump, cause I started at 1/2.. But every single limit jump, theres a corresponding jump in agression...

From my experience the toughest jump was from 3/6 to 5/10 because thats around the time you need to really start learning blind defense and blind attacking, because multiway pots and 70 VPIPS are much rarer.

Easiest was surprisngly 5/10 to 10/20...
Altho im still not good at dealing with a 10/20 table full of spew monkies that know how to play poker..

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I thought 5/10 was a little softer than 3/6. Not really sure why.
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Old 09-17-2007, 05:41 AM
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I thought 5/10 was a little softer than 3/6. Not really sure why.

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I imagine it's because I play 5/10.
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Old 09-17-2007, 06:47 AM
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How big a difference is .25/.5 from say 2/4 in terms of play? Just a lot more aggressive?

[/ QUOTE ]

Way less donks, more skilled players and much more agressive....

Not sure about that jump, cause I started at 1/2.. But every single limit jump, theres a corresponding jump in agression...

From my experience the toughest jump was from 3/6 to 5/10 because thats around the time you need to really start learning blind defense and blind attacking, because multiway pots and 70 VPIPS are much rarer.

Easiest was surprisngly 5/10 to 10/20...
Altho im still not good at dealing with a 10/20 table full of spew monkies that know how to play poker..

[/ QUOTE ]

I thought 5/10 was a little softer than 3/6. Not really sure why.

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This has been my experience too. Probably because there are fewer total maniacs at 5/10 on party (I don't know how to handle those guys).
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Old 09-17-2007, 08:43 AM
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How big a difference is .25/.5 from say 2/4 in terms of play? Just a lot more aggressive?

[/ QUOTE ]

Way less donks, more skilled players and much more agressive....

Not sure about that jump, cause I started at 1/2.. But every single limit jump, theres a corresponding jump in agression...

From my experience the toughest jump was from 3/6 to 5/10 because thats around the time you need to really start learning blind defense and blind attacking, because multiway pots and 70 VPIPS are much rarer.

Easiest was surprisngly 5/10 to 10/20...
Altho im still not good at dealing with a 10/20 table full of spew monkies that know how to play poker..

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Yeah my goal is to get back up in to FR .5/1 in about a month while still playin .25/.5 6max with the eventual switch to .5/1 6max at about 500BB.
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Old 09-17-2007, 11:07 AM
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I have found that there are big jumps in skill now at the levels on Stars. It used to be that all games 2/4 and below were relatively similar, but I find that as you go from 0.25/0.5 to 2/4 you see big jumps in game toughness now.

I would say 0.25/0.5 and below is about how the old games play with lots of loose passives and spewy LAGS.

0.5/1 has a few thinking players and some more clueless TAGs and LAGs, but is still pretty soft in general.

1/2 is where I notice the games start to fill with more TAGs and 28/18/2 types. I have to start actually table selecting there.

2/4 seems actually decently tough now. I think table selection is important from here on up and sometimes there will be no good games going.
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Old 09-17-2007, 12:38 PM
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What limits do yall find Stoxtraders book to become more relevant?
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Old 09-17-2007, 01:01 PM
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I have found that there are big jumps in skill now at the levels on Stars. It used to be that all games 2/4 and below were relatively similar, but I find that as you go from 0.25/0.5 to 2/4 you see big jumps in game toughness now.

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Generally speaking, I think the 'jumps' correspond with the way Stars groups the tables - 5/10 and 10/20 play similarly now because people who play those games have their browser open to "Medium Stakes". It is my experience that there are far more LP-hopeless types at 3/6 than at 5/10, where the bad players tend to be 45/25 nutters.
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