flop decision

[TheHip41]

AP 3-6 short

6 handed right now.

Player to my right, V3, is a multitabling lagtag. Very solid, winning player.

Player to his right, V2, is a 60/10 mega fish, basically supporting all of 3-6 for the last week.

Player to his right, V1, is an unknown fish, 50-15-1.0

so it goes UTG, V2, V3, me on button, sb, and V1 in the BB


hip has Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] on the button

utg folds, V2 calls, V3 raises, I 3bet, sb folds, V1 calls, V2 calls, V3 CAPS, I call, all call.

4 to flop for 16ish SB.

6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

V1 bets, V2 raises, V3 3bets, Hip wonders wtf is going and clicks what button?

[jstill]

id muck. villain 1 bets rite out into the cap and the capper 3bets after its gone bet raise I dont see either of them doing that with JJ often enough.

can u tell me anything about what villain 2 would raise the flop with here? is it pretty much anything ? do u know much about v3's postflop tendencies? is he usually passive or spewtastic?

[TheHip41]

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id muck. villain 1 bets rite out into the cap and the capper 3bets after its gone bet raise I dont see either of them doing that with JJ often enough.

can u tell me anything about what villain 2 would raise the flop with here? is it pretty much anything ? do u know much about v3's postflop tendencies? is he usually passive or spewtastic?

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No, the lagtag is pretty straightforward.

My range on the flop would be AKs, mabye AQs (clubs of course) AA, KK, QQ, JJ, TT. W

When he 3bet, I figured he has AA, KK, QQ, sometimes JJ, or a big flush draw.

I don't know if he caps with AQs or TT here, but with 3 ppl committed, he might.

I didn't know what do to, so that's why I'm here.

As for the flop "raiser", he could have a draw, PP, a 4, trips, quads. He defintely has 'something' though. He would just call with air, not raise [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[MacGuyV]

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id muck. villain 1 bets rite out into the cap and the capper 3bets after its gone bet raise I dont see either of them doing that with JJ often enough.


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I think we have V1 and 2 beat just about always because fish never play trips like this and most people in this forum are 3betting JJ/TT in V3's spot because what else are you going to do with those hands on that board in a pot that big?
I'd probly still muck though. [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

[ILOVEPOKER929]

I'd fold.

[TheHip41]

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I'd fold.

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well i did fold, just wondering if that was a clear play, a marginal spot, or a horrible play

p.s. you are a pimp

[Nick C]

I guess that 3-bet seals it. I would fold.

I doubt the solid TAG is doing this with AK (except, maybe, AcKc), so we need for him to have capped JJ/TT preflop. Which isn't out of the question, but there are still the other two players to worry about too, and I'm not liking the looks of this.

[ILOVEPOKER929]

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p.s. you are a pimp

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I'm not that much of a pimp. I only had sex 6 times this weekend. I [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Asians. I [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Match.com. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[PokerSparky]

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p.s. you are a pimp

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I'm not that much of a pimp. I only had sex 6 times this weekend. I [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Asians. I [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Match.com. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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BBV Please.

[johnnyrocket]

easy muck. A raise and reraise against the 2 cappers, then the capper 3 bets, instant muck before you cost yourself lots of money on an easy lay down.