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Old 11-16-2007, 01:50 PM
jesse8888 jesse8888 is offline
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Default Re: 5/10 live button play. QJs

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There are some fundamental concepts you seem to be missing there, but other posters who are more eloquent than I can talk about that stuff.

This is a very standard raise because we have a large equity edge.

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a LARGE equity edge?

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Somebody can poker stove this, but 8 handed against 7 limpers (so assuming nobody has JJ+), you've got to have a large equity edge here against their ranges. As a specific example, I plugged this in:

http://twodimes.net/poker/?g=h&b=&am...c+6s%0D%0AQc+3c

Using those hands (which are totally reasonable holdings I think), you have over 22% equity in an 8 handed pot, plus you have the button! Your "fair share" is only 12.5%, so clearly you are printing money with the raise. When 8 more bets go in, your equity goes up by 1.76 bets.
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Old 11-16-2007, 02:06 PM
BadBigBabar BadBigBabar is offline
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Default Re: 5/10 live button play. QJs

it's not large but it's noticeable and it helps to be decent postflop. also bad people live limp jj+ and we all know it [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 11-16-2007, 02:10 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 live button play. QJs

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it's not large but it's noticeable and it helps to be decent postflop. also bad people live limp jj+ and we all know it [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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The loss in equity there is made up for in the fact that they also pay off too much when you beat them.
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Old 11-16-2007, 02:21 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 live button play. QJs

I'd be raising this in the blinds as well against this many opponents; even though OOP I'm thinking the equity edge makes up for this.
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