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Old 07-24-2007, 11:30 PM
MJBuddy MJBuddy is offline
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Default AKs in SB Early 2$ - Folded!

Lies about the folding. How's my line here.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP3 (t1480)
CO (t3800)
Button (t3105)
Hero (t1215)
BB (t3815)
UTG (t1330)
UTG+1 (t1450)
MP1 (t1310)
MP2 (t1680)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls t30, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t120</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls t90.

Flop: (t270) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t150</font>, MP2 calls t150.

Turn: (t570) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets t90</font>, Hero calls t90.

River: (t750) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t855 (All-In)</font>, MP2 calls t855.

Final Pot: t2460
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Old 07-24-2007, 11:48 PM
ChipSpeak ChipSpeak is offline
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Default Re: AKs in SB Early 2$ - Folded!

The rush of traffic to flame you!!!

Why so passive on the turn? The pot is what it is (big in relation to our stack), and you've got 18 outs to improve... 11 of them are nut hands.
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Old 07-24-2007, 11:49 PM
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Default Re: AKs in SB Early 2$ - Folded!

regardless of results i push the turn
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Old 07-24-2007, 11:58 PM
MJBuddy MJBuddy is offline
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Default Re: AKs in SB Early 2$ - Folded!

I don't think I have 18 live outs. Any hand that's limp/calling here and hit this flop either has a strong hand or an ok hand with a strong draw.

Which is a better argument for getting it in on the turn rather than freaking when the ace of clubs comes off and I get to play crying call time?
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Old 07-25-2007, 03:40 AM
SuperUberBob SuperUberBob is offline
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Default Re: AKs in SB Early 2$ - Folded!

I really don't think a check/call is an awful decision here. However, I am willing to get it all-in on the turn if it comes down to it. Though I'd prefer not to make a big move until the river comes down.

I don't mind keeping the pot small on the turn. You only have ace high and not all of your outs may be live.
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Old 07-25-2007, 04:41 AM
plzleenowhammy plzleenowhammy is offline
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Default Re: AKs in SB Early 2$ - Folded!

why such a small flop bet? i think i'd either check/fold or lead out for something 180-220ish.. your flop bet is going to get called by a ton of hands and just makes the pot bigger when oop.. i'm check/folding this flop probably 90% of time.

what do you think?
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Old 07-25-2007, 09:19 AM
JayPez JayPez is offline
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Default Re: AKs in SB Early 2$ - Folded!

in a $2 tourney i'm gonna check fold this flop, best to conserve your chips for when u make a hand, because you will get paid with a big one.

if i bet the flop and pick up the flush draw, i'll probably check call. however with that weak bet i'll probably reraise him all in, giving him a tough time to call, and you got a lot of outs if he calls.

pez
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Old 07-25-2007, 09:30 AM
cheburashka cheburashka is offline
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Default Re: AKs in SB Early 2$ - Folded!

Flop looks like a pretty standard c-bet.

But I honestly don't understand what you're trying to accomplish on the turn. If you interpret his call as having a pair or better, why not check and get a free card? If you think he's on nothing but a club flush draw, why not fire a second barrel, instead of giving him a free card? It seems as though you weren't sure and just bet to bet.
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Old 07-25-2007, 10:36 AM
BarryLyndon BarryLyndon is offline
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Default Re: AKs in SB Early 2$ - Folded!

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...that flop c-bet needs to have a plan on the turn, because it's getting called /
RRed down often on this board.

The turn is Ok, becuase you are getting such a great price +, as the hand is played, if a spade hits, massive implied odds.

Barry
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Old 07-25-2007, 11:22 AM
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Default Re: AKs in SB Early 2$ - Folded!

[ QUOTE ]
in a $2 tourney i'm gonna check fold this flop, best to conserve your chips for when u make a hand, because you will get paid with a big one.

if i bet the flop and pick up the flush draw, i'll probably check call. however with that weak bet i'll probably reraise him all in, giving him a tough time to call, and you got a lot of outs if he calls.

pez

[/ QUOTE ]

I disagree here, that "weak" bet on the turn can easily be translated as a big hand that wants you to shove over or at least call. If he had a weak hand on this board the smart play is to check behind. If our villian knows this or not is undetermined. Furthermore why would you shove when the price to call and draw is perfect?
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