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Old 11-26-2007, 10:56 AM
Rosslex Rosslex is offline
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Default Re: 25/50 v traheho standard no?

Is traheno likely to call the river bet with AQ, AJ, A rag? Would it be worth considering betting 2k again on the river hoping to get a call from KQ, Ace rag+? (with the intention of calling AI rr if he forces it).

This hand is similar to the other thread ('15/30 deep bluff' thread) where the hero checkraised (on turn tho)and pushed AI on river - in that case it was a bad river bluff card. Could the same be said here - that you are not getting called AI unless beat? In the other thread I suggested he take the line you took here, checkraise flop and lead turn and river as it screams strength. Therefore if you bet 2k instead of AI on river here could u expect some light calls as villain would presume you would push river if had a big hand, e.g. full house.

Player dependant maybe? I don't really know Traheno's game.
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Old 11-26-2007, 12:36 PM
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Default Re: 25/50 v traheho standard no?

its pretty ridiculous to put AJ or AQ in trahehos range after he calls your turn bet.
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Old 11-26-2007, 01:15 PM
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Default Re: 25/50 v traheho standard no?

so why cant we checkfold?
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Old 11-26-2007, 01:32 PM
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Default Re: 25/50 v traheho standard no?

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so why cant we checkfold?

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to protect ourselves against a double float?
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Old 11-26-2007, 03:03 PM
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Default Re: 25/50 v traheho standard no?

c/f and c/c are both really bad imo

i think i like bet fold (2.5k i think) > shove
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Old 11-26-2007, 03:17 PM
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Default Re: 25/50 v traheho standard no?

I agree with the river bet of roughly 2.5k but not sure you can pass for an AI rr. If he suspects you will fold TT there then it seems like spew to bet the river, as he only has to force that fold like 20% of the time to make it a profitable float, no?

I like either leading 2k on river and call AI.

Thoughts?
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Old 11-26-2007, 03:20 PM
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Default Re: 25/50 v traheho standard no?

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I agree with the river bet of roughly 2.5k but not sure you can pass for an AI rr. If he suspects you will fold TT there then it seems like spew to bet the river, as he only has to force that fold like 20% of the time to make it a profitable float, no?

I like either leading 2k on river and call AI.

Thoughts?

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if he knows you shove AK here and would only bet 2.5 with the bottom of your v-betting range then yeah...but its a pretty sick bluff imo and i doubt he pulls it anywhere near 20% of the time
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Old 11-26-2007, 03:05 PM
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Default Re: 25/50 v traheho standard no?

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Old 11-26-2007, 01:17 PM
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Default Re: 25/50 v traheho standard no?

Jc,

do u think his river range is always KT,str8+?
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Old 11-26-2007, 01:30 PM
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Default Re: 25/50 v traheho standard no?

id think so, 95%+
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