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Old 11-12-2007, 10:05 PM
Terrabon98 Terrabon98 is offline
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So if Miles comes in, does he get rid of DeBord and English right off the bat?
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Old 11-12-2007, 10:15 PM
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Default Re: Lloyd Carr Retiring

Spurrier for god.
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Old 11-12-2007, 10:15 PM
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So if Miles comes in, does he get rid of DeBord and English right off the bat?

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I have no real problems with English, although some of the defense's performances this year were inexcusable. As for DeBord, I wish he got fired yesterday.

Unless keeping Lloyd's staff is conditional with taking the job -- something a coach like Miles would never agree to -- then it should be expected Lloyd's staff is gone with him.

IIRC, last year, all of the football coaching staff had their contracts re-written so that if Lloyd retired, they get some buyout money. In fact, I think that the leaked news of their contract tweaking is what started all the internet rumor-mongering that Lloyd might be considering retirment, hence why this move isn't all that surprising.
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Old 11-12-2007, 10:48 PM
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I have no real problems with English, although some of the defense's performances this year were inexcusable. As for DeBord, I wish he got fired yesterday.

Unless keeping Lloyd's staff is conditional with taking the job -- something a coach like Miles would never agree to -- then it should be expected Lloyd's staff is gone with him.

IIRC, last year, all of the football coaching staff had their contracts re-written so that if Lloyd retired, they get some buyout money. In fact, I think that the leaked news of their contract tweaking is what started all the internet rumor-mongering that Lloyd might be considering retirment, hence why this move isn't all that surprising.


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I'm generally on the same page. If English stayed, I could live with it. I am still not sure if English is a good D coordinator, but I'm willing to give him a few more years. We definitely need a special teams coach. Our special teams were subpar. Mesko's good, but our punt and kickoff returns were terrible. Breaston's absense is not an excuse. How many times did our KO returner get hit at the 12 yard line by 3 opponents? We never blocked anybody.
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Old 11-12-2007, 11:18 PM
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Shocking news. Shocking.
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Old 11-12-2007, 11:47 PM
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We definitely need a special teams coach. Our special teams were subpar. Mesko's good, but our punt and kickoff returns were terrible. Breaston's absense is not an excuse. How many times did our KO returner get hit at the 12 yard line by 3 opponents? We never blocked anybody.

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Special teams has been abysmal this year. But I don't think Michigan has ever had a special teams coordinator. The NCAA limits the amount of "coaches" a team can hire and have on the sidelines (1 head coach, 9 assistants, two graduate assistants). At U of M, special teams responsibilities have historically been divided up among the coordinators and other assistants. Michigan does have an assistant who is given the title of Special Teams Quality Control, or something like that, but I think he has other duties/focuses outside of special teams.

I think LSU has a special teams coordinator, so this is something that could change if Miles is hired.
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