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Old 06-10-2007, 03:07 PM
Kairos Kairos is offline
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Default 25NL: AKs on monotone flop, value extraction.

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 4 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $24.95
BB: $57.58
<font color="black">Hero (UTG): $33.50</font>
BTN: $3.65

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $1.00</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises all-in to $3.65</font>, SB folds, BB calls $3.40, Hero calls $2.65

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($11.05) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players - 1 All-In)
<font color="red">BB bets $6.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero?</font>


Button is running at 33/14/1.57 over 36 hands. He is propably not all that good, I think I am way ahead of his range here.

BB is 21/15/2.42 over 98 hands. He is pretty aggressive and probaly a winner in the game.

Preflop I elected just to call because I was surprised by the BB's cold call. Is a 4bet to isolate the button better here?

On the flop I couldn't decide wether to raise or call. I am holding the As and the Ks so he can only draw to the 3rd nuts here.
I think he folds QQ+ to a raise here aswell as some combo hands like QsJx, or Qs9x, whereas he will very likely felt them if I flat call

Given the preflop action it's unlikely he has a lower flush here but sets/two-pair are a big part of his range and another spade will kill my action then.
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Old 06-10-2007, 03:18 PM
Nick C Nick C is offline
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Default Re: 25NL: AKs on monotone flop, value extraction.

I think calling and raising immediately are both legitimate options.

Given that BB is tight, I doubt he has QsJx or Qs9x here. I guess maybe KQo is possible. I'm thinking more in terms of a trickily played overpair, an underpair with a spade in it, AJ in some other suit, AxQs, or a set that's looking to bet/3-bet, though. On the other hand, the fact that SB is all-in cuts down on the attractiveness of betting a hand like AxQs into an empty side pot, you'd think.
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Old 06-10-2007, 03:22 PM
Ikaika Ikaika is offline
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Default Re: 25NL: AKs on monotone flop, value extraction.

If he flopped a set all the money is going in on this flop if he's not retarded. That said, he has 10 outs against your flush if he did flop a set, so you absolutely need to raise him here. Pop it up to 14 and hope he pushes.
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Old 06-10-2007, 03:24 PM
mrw8419 mrw8419 is offline
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Default Re: 25NL: AKs on monotone flop, value extraction.

I 4 bet preflop

As played put in a smallish raise 15-16, calling sucks since another spade will call any action.
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Old 06-10-2007, 03:31 PM
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Default Re: 25NL: AKs on monotone flop, value extraction.

I'd just call and beg that the turn wouldn't pair the board or give another spade. If he raises again on the turn go all-in and if not make a decent bet and get your remaining money in on the river.
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Old 06-10-2007, 03:32 PM
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Default Re: 25NL: AKs on monotone flop, value extraction.

He's unlikely to put much money in with a Q high flush draw or even with a Q high flush with you cold calling the flop.
I think you have to resign yourself to no getting any more action unless he has a set, in which case you must raise here.

Raise, expect him to fold or push and be done with it.
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Old 06-10-2007, 03:46 PM
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I raised, BB folded and Button showed 77.

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 4 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $24.95
BB: $57.58
<font color="black">Hero (UTG): $33.50</font>
BTN: $3.65

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $1.00</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises all-in to $3.65</font>, SB folds, BB calls $3.40, Hero calls $2.65

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($11.05) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players - 1 All-In)
<font color="red">BB bets $6.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $15.50</font>, BB folds
Uncalled bet of $9.50 returned to Hero

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($23.05) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

<font color="black">River:</font> ($23.05) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $23.05

BTN had 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a flush, Jack high) and LOST (-$3.65)
Hero had K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a flush, Ace high) and WON (+$21.75)
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Old 06-10-2007, 04:07 PM
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Default Re: Results

You played the hand correctly and won a nice pot, no shame in not stacking BB here.
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