Push ok?

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Lets put villain on re-raise range of JJ+,AQs+,AKo. And say he calls with KK+,AKs. Doesn't seem unreasonable.

Hand 0: 67.918% 53.29% 14.63% 32849568 9016902.00 { KK+, AKs }
Hand 1: 32.082% 17.45% 14.63% 10759572 9016902.00 { AKs }

You are folding out 63% of his range and have 32% equity the other 37% of the time.

You are paying about $41 to take down 3.50 now or buying about $30 worth of equity when he calls. So its about +$2 when he folds and about -$3.5.

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I'm a little confused by all this! Are you saying my move was bad? Thanks!

[NeverScurred]

Your push was a ridiculous overbet. If you're going to 4-bet, make it a reasonable amount (another poster suggested $17, which seems fine). I prefer to just flat call his 3bet, though, because you have position and are ahead of his 3-betting range. You're not ahead of the range that calls a shove.

[mickb70]

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Lets put villain on re-raise range of JJ+,AQs+,AKo. And say he calls with KK+,AKs. Doesn't seem unreasonable.

Hand 0: 67.918% 53.29% 14.63% 32849568 9016902.00 { KK+, AKs }
Hand 1: 32.082% 17.45% 14.63% 10759572 9016902.00 { AKs }

You are folding out 63% of his range and have 32% equity the other 37% of the time.

You are paying about $41 to take down 3.50 now or buying about $30 worth of equity when he calls. So its about +$2 when he folds and about -$3.5.

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I'm a little confused by all this! Are you saying my move was bad? Thanks!

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I'm basically saying that if you accept the ranges I assigned you lose about $1.5 so in isolation its -ev and therefore bad. But even if you could argue for a range that is +ev for a shove it still would be a worse line than a smaller 3-bet or even a flat call and take a flop.