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Re: Is It Possible To Become A Worse Player Over Time?
Can I get a 2nd opinion on this book? Sounds interesting enough to ask some1 else about it.
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Re: Is It Possible To Become A Worse Player Over Time?
IMO the strat forums are way more valuable than any book out there ...there still isnt a great nl holdem cash game book that is designed for tougher online games ..proffesional NL is pretty good ...it will get you beating the micros but it doesnt give you startegy like what to raise PF and what to play PF because and all of that ...that comes from discussing strategy with other players and understanding the game better ...if your unsure how you played a hand just post it in the strat forums
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Re: Is It Possible To Become A Worse Player Over Time?
if you want to play cookbook poker, don't play big bet (no limit or pot limit). If this is what you want to do, play limit, probably Omaha H/L or Holdem...razz is also an option.
Don't feel forced into playing one specific form of poker if that form doesn't suit you psychologically. There are enough choices that play differently, one of them will suit you better. |
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declined to a horrendous 2 ptbb/100 in the last two weeks. The last few weeks have totally negated everything I have won over the past couple of months [/ QUOTE ] Something's wrong here. If you are at 2ptBB/100 you are winning, so how does this negate your bankroll? Also, there's nothing wrong with 2ptBB/100 that's a decent win rate over time. |
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[ QUOTE ] declined to a horrendous 2 ptbb/100 in the last two weeks. The last few weeks have totally negated everything I have won over the past couple of months [/ QUOTE ] Something's wrong here. If you are at 2ptBB/100 you are winning, so how does this negate your bankroll? Also, there's nothing wrong with 2ptBB/100 that's a decent win rate over time. [/ QUOTE ] I think he means his overall winrate went from 7ptbb to 2ptbb, which means he is losing now. |
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I think that it is easy to become complacent; I know my play falls off after a while and what I have to do to bring it back around is study, study study (Books, Notes, HHs, Forums etc). Try doing that, and remember that NL is a complex game. I don't think you can play just a basic strategy and be a long time winner. The advice about limit is good; Ive always heard NL refered to as an Art, LHE as a science. Maybe you are just a science person.
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I think that it is easy to become complacent; I know my play falls off after a while and what I have to do to bring it back around is study, study study (Books, Notes, HHs, Forums etc). Try doing that, and remember that NL is a complex game. I don't think you can play just a basic strategy and be a long time winner. The advice about limit is good; Ive always heard NL refered to as an Art, LHE as a science. Maybe you are just a science person. [/ QUOTE ] I really can't imagine trying to learn poker starting out in a big bet game. When I started, I played primarily hi/lo stud (a very precision oriented game at low limits) and migrated to Omaha H/L before ever seriously taking up NLHE (about 18 months ago). It's a great foundation for your poker game in general to learn the less popular games. |
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IMO the strat forums are way more valuable than any book out there ...there still isnt a great nl holdem cash game book that is designed for tougher online games ..proffesional NL is pretty good ...it will get you beating the micros but it doesnt give you startegy like what to raise PF and what to play PF because and all of that ...that comes from discussing strategy with other players and understanding the game better ...if your unsure how you played a hand just post it in the strat forums [/ QUOTE ] totally agree with this comment. Books will give you the foundations and addiotnal things to think about but to improve you need to discuss hands which is best done in the strat forums. To answer the title of your question i think it is possible to become a worse player. I started online and lost. i was playing way too many hands. When i had read a ton of books i approached the game with a tighter style and started losing more. This was down to one main reason - not letting go of second best hands. I was more experienced and tighter but could not let go of those hands that lose you the most money. i had become a worse player profit wise even though i was more knowlegeable of poker. Reading this forum and others changed my game to be able to make good laydowns, helped me recognise when to slow down on hands. I also agree lag style wins more but will have a higher variance. Lag style means you absoultely HAVE to know when to fold these second best hands. Lag style is about constant pressure and picking up lots of pots but being able to get away from hands like 2 pair on scary boards/raises form tight players etc.. This takes time and at low levels LAG is not a winner. ABC at lower levels, build that roll and start to Loosen it up as you step up games. NL50 and below = ABC Poker, tight aggressive, positional game. |
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when do you think lag becomes effective 200NL??
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I think it can be effective at 100NL as that is where the good players start creeping in. You need people to be level 2 thinkers and notice opponents behaviour and also know that they can lay down hands.
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