Caesars AC: Player assaults player and gets to stay

bennyblanco · #1 10-09-2007, 12:48 AM

I was playing at Caesar's this weekend and sometime around 5 or 6 AM there was a commotion at the 2-4 table. I look over and see two players in each other's face. The younger guy grabs the other one by the throat and throws him over a chair at the next table. The floor guy runs over and they get in between the two players. Eventually the guy who got choke slammed is escorted out of the the poker room, but the guy who threw him stays and plays! The dealer from the table rotated to us later and told us that the guy who got slammed was in the wrong because he was taunting the other dude and getting in his face. However, it still seems crazy to me that they would let a player who put his hands on another player stay in the room and play. Thoughts?

Bishop22 · #2 10-09-2007, 01:07 AM

Caesar's floor sucks so I am not surprised, they seem to get everything wrong even that which is not poker related. Obv the guy that escalates it to the physical level needs to get tossed/banned, he was probably a regular.

SNOWBALL · #3 10-09-2007, 01:24 AM

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I was playing at Caesar's this weekend and sometime around 5 or 6 AM there was a commotion at the 2-4 table. I look over and see two players in each other's face. The younger guy grabs the other one by the throat and throws him over a chair at the next table. The floor guy runs over and they get in between the two players. Eventually the guy who got choke slammed is escorted out of the the poker room, but the guy who threw him stays and plays! The dealer from the table rotated to us later and told us that the guy who got slammed was in the wrong because he was taunting the other dude and getting in his face. However, it still seems crazy to me that they would let a player who put his hands on another player stay in the room and play. Thoughts?

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Wow. At least at Hollywood park they kick you out for this [censored]. That place is BAD, but this is a hell of a lot worse. I mean, the guy basically performed a WWF move of the other guy. This isn't just assault. It's battery.

*TT* · #4 10-09-2007, 01:35 AM

my thought - perhaps the chocker has a relationship with the floor?

DrVanNostrin · #5 10-09-2007, 01:41 AM

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Thoughts?

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wtf?

bigshowmack · #6 10-09-2007, 02:04 AM

I saw this happen at casino windsor too. Some old italian guy who was obviously a regular because the floors knew him by name picked my buddy up out of his chair by his shirt and was grabbing him by his throat when I went over and told him to let go before I broke his arm. The floor guys grabbed me and told me to calm down before I got tossed out, and they let the regular sit back down and play. it was all over the old dude accusing my buddy of buying in for more than the max and my friend telling him to mind his business.

Dima2000123 · #7 10-09-2007, 02:07 AM

Caesar's poker room is the only room where I ever felt physically threatened at any point. Even when not physically threatened, I was put off by some of the guys who were extremely loud and obnoxious, and seemed like regulars who knew each other. Maybe the action is good, but I'm not playing 1/2 NL to make money, so I decided that the room was not worth tolerating.

Mr. AtlanticCity · #8 10-09-2007, 09:12 AM

It happened at a Harrah's owned casino in Atlantic City. Are you in the least bit suprised?

Decissions to remove players are made not by who started the fight or who was physical, but yet who they can rake the most off of if you were to let them stay.

KStV · #9 10-09-2007, 02:32 PM

Not nearly as bad as your situation, but I was playing in the Saturday tourney at Caesar's AC last month and I thought the floor was way too passive when a situation developed.

It was down to the final 14 players and there was a commotion at the other table. I have no information about what prompted it, but a player who had just busted out was looming over another player's seat in a threatening fashion and berating him (very loudly). "You got something to f-ing say, motherf-er," etc. etc. The target of the tirade was ignoring the irate guy and saying/doing nothing. This went on for a good 45 seconds (an eternity in this sort of thing) without so much as acknowledgement from the floor. I understand that it's best to let this guy just blow some steam and exit stage left, but I thought a show of physical presence in the area by Caesar's staff was absolutely necessary.

Mr. AtlanticCity · #10 10-09-2007, 02:55 PM

Agreed. I understand someone who busts out having to say something, but say it and leave. "Nice suckout donkey" or something like that. When the player starts to get louder, cursing, ruder, or continue to just go on and on, floor at least needs to least immediately start making their way toward the table, and if the player still is going on, getting in front of the player and start "pushing" him off the table and out to the exit.

I don't care if he wants to play a cash game after - the floor needs to #1) make the player leave the room to cool down, at least an hour, if not longer, and #2) to "protect" the harassed individual still in the tournament.

If a player ever gets physical with another player or throws anything at them (chips, glass, bottle), one year suspension minimum. That send the message that that type of behavior is unacceptable. Unfortunately, Caesars floor sits on their butts and the room continue to become a replay of WWE.

It's a shame, becuase Caesars has everything to become the top poker room of all the Harrah's owned casinos in AC and probably the third best behind Borgata and Taj. There are several mid-size rooms in AC competing to be third on the list, and if I was manager, I would be doing everything to make sure my casino was there.

Allowing abusive players to continue to play keeps it from getting there.