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Old 05-12-2007, 12:21 AM
Harv72b Harv72b is offline
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Default FTOPS 1 vs. David Chiu

Blinds 60/120. Standard $200 bounty for taking out a FT pro.

Hero: 6410
SB: 3400
BB (David Chiu): 1990
BTN is sitting out.

Folded to Hero who openlimps in the CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] SB completes, Chiu checks.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (pot: t360)
SB bets 240, David Chiu raises all-in (t1870)...

Pot sits at t2470, t1870 to Hero. RRAI? Fold? Call?

Openlimp was a changeup, by no means a standard move for me.
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Old 05-12-2007, 12:31 AM
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Default Re: FTOPS 1 vs. David Chiu

He can't bust you, I say you call. Lots of EV hiding here, and 12 outs.
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Old 05-12-2007, 12:33 AM
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Default Re: FTOPS 1 vs. David Chiu

Call incredibly fast. Even without the bounty I'd probably call, with the bounty it's not even close.
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Old 05-12-2007, 12:36 AM
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Default Re: FTOPS 1 vs. David Chiu

Steve,

Is this an automatic call because of our stack size?
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Old 05-12-2007, 12:38 AM
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Default Re: FTOPS 1 vs. David Chiu

Flat call, though? SB is still in the hand, although I imagine his calling range would be extremely thin after an all in & call.
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Old 05-12-2007, 12:38 AM
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Default Re: FTOPS 1 vs. David Chiu

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Steve,

Is this an automatic call because of our stack size?

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Our stack size is pretty irrelevant here. It's nice that we have more chips than Chiu, although that's much more because of the bounty than any kind of tournament life considerations. I call here completely regardless of my stack size.
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Old 05-12-2007, 12:39 AM
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Default Re: FTOPS 1 vs. David Chiu

THERES A BOUNTY!!!!! This isnt even close
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Old 05-12-2007, 12:40 AM
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Default Re: FTOPS 1 vs. David Chiu

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Steve,

Is this an automatic call because of our stack size?

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Our stack size is pretty irrelevant here. It's nice that we have more chips than Chiu, although that's much more because of the bounty than any kind of tournament life considerations. I call here completely regardless of my stack size.

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I'm kind of misunderstanding this. Are we calling because of the flushdraw or because of the bounty? And if this is because of the flushdraw, do we always call flushdraws, or only when pot odds dictate that we do? 4:1 for flushdraws, correct?
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Old 05-12-2007, 12:41 AM
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Default Re: FTOPS 1 vs. David Chiu

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Steve,

Is this an automatic call because of our stack size?

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Our stack size is pretty irrelevant here. It's nice that we have more chips than Chiu, although that's much more because of the bounty than any kind of tournament life considerations. I call here completely regardless of my stack size.

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I'm kind of misunderstanding this. Are we calling because of the flushdraw or because of the bounty? And if this is because of the flushdraw, do we always call flushdraws, or only when pot odds dictate that we do? 4:1 for flushdraws, correct?

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Gutshot is very important too
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Old 05-12-2007, 12:44 AM
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Italian, he's all in, our flush draw gives us like 36% equity, the gutshot makes it more like 45%+. We're calling bc of the big draw, the bounty makes it easier.
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