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Old 02-07-2007, 01:02 PM
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Default Re: trip aces, good kicker... meh

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um...you're telling me that even though no one else in the world would check with my hand here, that once i check the problem is that it telegraphs my hand?

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no. once you check and then bet big on the turn and the river you are basically telgraphing your hand.

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what i find happening very often is that someone with 66 decides he has to protect his hand on the turn and makes a decent bet and then i call and then he either check/calls the river or check/folds the river but at least i got one good bet out of him that i wouldnt have gotten otherwise. or someone with QJ decides to bluff the turn. or they hit a pair on the turn and check/call two bets. or whatever.

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i find this never happens at all.
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Old 02-07-2007, 01:04 PM
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Default Re: trip aces, good kicker... meh

hmmm....what DO you think QJ does on a Q turn? check/fold?
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Old 02-07-2007, 01:07 PM
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Default Re: trip aces, good kicker... meh

What do u think A4s does on the turn? (He doesn't push)

Also, what do you think K9/TT does on a Q turn?
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Old 02-07-2007, 01:08 PM
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Default Re: trip aces, good kicker... meh

check/call?
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Old 02-07-2007, 01:14 PM
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Default Re: trip aces, good kicker... meh

Not when u bet that big. I mean what are u supposed to have as the PFR when potting the turn after checking the flop? Even if u don't have the ace in their eyes u probably outkick their Q or have QQ or w/e. Would u pot a Q turn with 88/67s?
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Old 02-07-2007, 01:25 PM
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Default Re: trip aces, good kicker... meh

Would I push a range that TT does well against?

POKERSTARS GAME #8248582571: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($3/$6) - 2007/02/02 - 19:09:33 (ET)
Table 'Klet II' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: antikiller1 ($75 in chips)
Seat 2: iknowallofpi ($1069.85 in chips)
Seat 3: wojo333 ($130 in chips)
Seat 4: GogUMagog ($618.60 in chips)
Seat 5: DerekJC9954 ($1170.20 in chips)
Seat 6: smugor ($1453.30 in chips)
wojo333: posts small blind $3
GogUMagog: posts big blind $6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to GogUMagog [Ac Kh]
DerekJC9954: folds
smugor: folds
antikiller1: folds
iknowallofpi: raises $14.25 to $20.25
wojo333: calls $17.25
GogUMagog: raises $67.75 to $88
iknowallofpi: raises $179 to $267
wojo333: folds
GogUMagog: raises $351.60 to $618.60 and is all-in
iknowallofpi: calls $351.60
*** FLOP *** [Js Qs 9c]
*** TURN *** [Js Qs 9c] [Kc]
*** RIVER *** [Js Qs 9c Kc] [5c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
GogUMagog: shows [Ac Kh] (a pair of Kings)
iknowallofpi: shows [Tc Ts] (a straight, Nine to King)
iknowallofpi collected $1254.45 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1257.45 | Rake $3
Board [Js Qs 9c Kc 5c]
Seat 1: antikiller1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: iknowallofpi (button) showed [Tc Ts] and won ($1254.45) with a straight, Nine to King
Seat 3: wojo333 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: GogUMagog (big blind) showed [Ac Kh] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 5: DerekJC9954 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: smugor folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Or 44?

POKERSTARS GAME #8300121338: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($2/$4) - 2007/02/05 - 21:31:03 (ET)
Table 'Josefa II' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Propheting ($128 in chips)
Seat 2: arni alo ($280.60 in chips)
Seat 4: GogUMagog ($412 in chips)
Seat 5: VaeSolis ($778.55 in chips)
arni alo: posts small blind $2
GogUMagog: posts big blind $4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to GogUMagog [Kd Ad]
VaeSolis: folds
Propheting: folds
arni alo: raises $8 to $12
GogUMagog: raises $32 to $44
arni alo: raises $56 to $100
GogUMagog: raises $312 to $412 and is all-in
arni alo: calls $180.60 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [4h 9h 2d]
*** TURN *** [4h 9h 2d] [Td]
*** RIVER *** [4h 9h 2d Td] [As]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
arni alo: shows [4c 4s] (three of a kind, Fours)
GogUMagog: mucks hand
arni alo collected $559.20 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $561.20 | Rake $2
Board [4h 9h 2d Td As]
Seat 1: Propheting (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: arni alo (small blind) showed [4c 4s] and won ($559.20) with three of a kind, Fours
Seat 4: GogUMagog (big blind) mucked [Kd Ad]
Seat 5: VaeSolis folded before Flop (didn't bet)

You guys seem to be thinking these guys are all 2+2ers, expecting me to be a 2+2er. The fact is, they make terrible calls. And they are more likely to make terrible calls if I check the flop than if I bet it...
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Old 02-07-2007, 01:25 PM
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Default Re: trip aces, good kicker... meh

HAHA, this site rocks! CAll! I know you did.
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Old 02-07-2007, 01:28 PM
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Default Re: trip aces, good kicker... meh

Hmm I thought stars was a rock garden, maybe it isn't?
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Old 02-07-2007, 01:31 PM
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Default Re: trip aces, good kicker... meh

Nowhere is a rock garden when i'm in the game. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 02-07-2007, 01:35 PM
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Default Re: trip aces, good kicker... meh

Fold the river for sure
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