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Old 03-20-2006, 07:21 PM
TStoneMBD TStoneMBD is offline
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villain is 27/13/1.5 after 293 hands. his other stats are normal.
I see 4 questionable plays on 3 streets, what do you guys think?

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (7 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.5 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (12.5 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 16.5 BB
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Old 03-20-2006, 07:25 PM
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Default Re: Shadow of the Sun

I like all of it a lot, what else are you gonna do?
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Old 03-20-2006, 07:33 PM
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I think either CR or check/call the flop is fine. I think the turn is perfect. I am 3-betting this river for sure. His hand looked like it may very well be AA on the turn, but once the Ace hits the river, he is just going to have to show me AT before I believe it. I think it is pretty unlikely that a guy with those stats is 3-betting both preflop and the flop with AT. It looks to me like he is in love with his TT.
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Old 03-20-2006, 07:34 PM
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why not 3bet the river
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Old 03-20-2006, 07:35 PM
Nate tha\\\' Great Nate tha\\\' Great is offline
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I'd three-bet that river. A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] x [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 77, 88, TT is more combos than exactly AT.
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Old 03-20-2006, 07:40 PM
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3-bet river, you're a 7:3 favorite if he plays ATo, ATs, TT, 88 and 77 this way. Even if he only caps AT you're making a profit.

Board: 7d Td Ac 8c As
.70 { Ah8h }
.30 { TT, 88-77, ATs, ATo }
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Old 03-20-2006, 08:21 PM
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I don't think a 27/13 3-bets a UTG raise with AT like, ever. I think you're looking at 77, 88, or TT (occasionally an overplayed AK/AQ) nearly all the time here and should 3 bet accordingly.
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Old 03-20-2006, 08:26 PM
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Default Re: Shadow of the Sun

I 3 bet the river too. Expect to see 77 or TT the majority of the time here. The rest of the hand looks fine to me.

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Old 03-20-2006, 08:28 PM
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yah i botched this river but shouldnt a tag here just call with hands that cant beat aces full? how many other hands am i checkraising this flop cr turn and donking river? although im sure im giving him too much credit and shouldnt expect him to think like that which is where i went wrong i think.
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Old 03-20-2006, 08:29 PM
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yah i botched this river but shouldnt a tag here just call with hands that cant beat aces full? how many other hands am i checkraising this flop cr turn and donking river?

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he might just think you are overplaing trips
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