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Old 10-28-2007, 05:11 PM
djk123 djk123 is offline
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Default Mill - fold KK on rag flop?

villain is theNorfman. no reads really. looked him up on poker db and he is +55k or so over ~800 tourneys.

if he had just shoved flop i wuda snap called but he had to go and minraise.

shove or fold?

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No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t50/t100
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t10825
UTG+1: t14300
MP1: t10425
MP2: t8636
MP3: t9925
djk123: t8775
Button: t10314
SB: t10375
BB: t6425

Pre-flop: (9 players) djk123 is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
4 folds, <font color="#cc0000">MP3 raises to t300</font>, <font color="#cc0000">djk123 raises to t1000</font>, Button calls t1000 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t1450)</font>, 3 folds.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t2450, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">djk123 bets t1600</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to t3200</font>, djk123
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Old 10-28-2007, 05:19 PM
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Default Re: Mill - fold KK on rag flop?

i think he can have QQ+ here, your prob good to get it in.
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Old 10-28-2007, 05:21 PM
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Default Re: Mill - fold KK on rag flop?

This is a weird line to take with AA, cold calling the reraise and then min-raising the flop. He should of folded 88, and he'd be a moron to raise/call with A3,34s utg+2

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Old 10-28-2007, 05:38 PM
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Default Re: Mill - fold KK on rag flop?

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This is a weird line to take with AA, cold calling the reraise and then min-raising the flop. He should of folded 88, and he'd be a moron to raise/call with A3,34s utg+2

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the original raiser folded, the button flatted it.
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Old 10-28-2007, 05:40 PM
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Default Re: Mill - fold KK on rag flop?

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i think he can have JJ+ here, your prob good to get it in.

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Old 10-28-2007, 05:46 PM
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Default Re: Mill - fold KK on rag flop?

i get it all in pretty quickly here
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Old 10-28-2007, 06:28 PM
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Default Re: Mill - fold KK on rag flop?

def push.
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Old 10-28-2007, 06:46 PM
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Default Re: Mill - fold KK on rag flop?

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This is a weird line to take with AA, cold calling the reraise and then min-raising the flop. He should of folded 88, and he'd be a moron to raise/call with A3,34s utg+2

Shove

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the original raiser folded, the button flatted it.

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Yes, I see it now..misread before.

I would still get it in here, this can be done with JJ, your only really worried about 88 here. AA would of deff. reraised in a multi-way pot PF

edit- and 88 doesnt belong here either, very easy fold after a reaise and a reraise with the original raiser still left to act
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Old 10-28-2007, 06:48 PM
ILOVEGRIMSTARR ILOVEGRIMSTARR is offline
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Default Re: Mill - fold KK on rag flop?

I don't see him having a hand that can have you beat here. This looks like JJ to me.
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Old 10-28-2007, 06:49 PM
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Default Re: Mill - fold KK on rag flop?

no with these stacks It is entirely possible for villain to flat preflop with AA, still are ahead of his range tho, and even if he doesnt do this with JJ, he certainly takes the same line with QQ making u atleast even money vs his range plus you already have deadmoney+money invested in the pot making this a pretty huge edge, snap push
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