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Old 10-17-2007, 09:13 PM
mbillie1 mbillie1 is offline
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I'd share the road with a drunk 25 year old white male over an 80 year old sober asian woman anytime. Also, cops suck. No real advice though.
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Old 10-17-2007, 09:24 PM
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Fatty, Smart people can use a dictionary.

Moral Dilemma <> Morale Dilema

Re-quit OOT and give everyone a 6 month break for your retardedness pls.

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I can't believe it took this long for someone to point this out.
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Old 10-17-2007, 09:47 PM
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Fatty, Smart people can use a dictionary.

Moral Dilemma <> Morale Dilema

Re-quit OOT and give everyone a 6 month break for your retardedness pls.

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I can't believe it took this long for someone to point this out.

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psssssst....if you look back in the thread I actually pointed out the spelling error myself...

...thanks for still being a douchebag Daver
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Old 10-17-2007, 11:02 PM
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A good friend would help him pay some fines and loan him a little money. A great friend would say, dude, we [censored] up this time! If you get caught lying in court.
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Old 10-17-2007, 11:06 PM
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first of all, i don't think morale is the word you're looking for here. Second, unless he admitted it, if the cops never saw him driving, he doesn't have anything to worry about and you don't need to bother testifying.

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Old 10-17-2007, 11:19 PM
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I am always amazed at how effective MADD has been as a lobby when I see these types of threads. The guy's drunk driving isn't a factor in your decision here.

Bottom line: there is no way this is worth the risk of perjury for you. It will be obvious, it might not work, and if the prosecutor goes after you he will likely get you.
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Old 10-18-2007, 04:55 AM
iggymcfly iggymcfly is offline
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2 things here:

1) Why does everyone always assume that DUI = alcoholic? Unless I missed it in one of the replies, OP never said that his friend was an alcoholic, yet people are still talking about going to AA, and how the friend should deal with his addiction. IMO, DUI's are just the result of general irresponsibility and bad decision-making at least as often as they are the result of an addiction. The fact that the friend hasn't had a DUI in 20 years makes it even less likely he's an addict.

2. This whole plan's a terrible idea. It's probably more likely to hurt your friend's defense than help it. In order for them to even charge him, he had to have his keys with him, and the fact that you weren't on the scene shortly after the arrest will look very suspicious. Just have your friend get a good lawyer and let him try to figure a way to get him off the charges.
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Old 10-18-2007, 07:50 PM
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...thanks for still being a douchebag Daver

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Says the guy considering perjury.
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Old 10-18-2007, 09:49 PM
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If he was really a friend, I'd probably do it for him. I'd wait until the absolute last minute to say anything though so the cops/prosecutor don't have any time to investigate. If you're going to do this, tell your friend to say absolutely nothing cops or D.A. about his case. Not a word. When it's the defenses turn to present its case at trial, that's when you and your friend tell your story. Make sure your friend demands a jury trial. You'd only need one juror to believe that your story might be true to avoid a conviction. I doubt too many prosecutors will bother to retry a hung-jury DUI case.
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Old 10-18-2007, 11:22 PM
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1) Why does everyone always assume that DUI = alcoholic? Unless I missed it in one of the replies, OP never said that his friend was an alcoholic, yet people are still talking about going to AA, and how the friend should deal with his addiction. IMO, DUI's are just the result of general irresponsibility and bad decision-making at least as often as they are the result of an addiction. The fact that the friend hasn't had a DUI in 20 years makes it even less likely he's an addict.

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I take this as an attack at my post given i'm the only one who mentioned the word alcoholic (prior to your post) in the whole thread.

Your statement that i assumed that he is an alcoholic is innacurate. If you go back and reread my posts, you will see that both of them read, "IF he is an alcoholic." Meaning, IF he is an alcoholic, THEN here is some useful information.

Another innacuracy in your post is this equation: DUI = alcoholic. OP said that this was his 3rd time offending, so in reality the equation should read DUIs = alcoholic.

Also, i'd imagine that statistically a high percentage of people who have acquired 3 DUIs in their lifetime are alcoholics. So even if i did assume he was an alcoholic, which i didn't, it probably would be an accurate assumption.
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