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Old 10-17-2007, 10:41 AM
daryn daryn is offline
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but klompy how would you feel if you lied for him to be free and then he killed some kid a week later while driving drunk.. prob not good.
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Old 10-17-2007, 10:53 AM
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I don't want to get into a discussion over my views on drunk driving, as I always end up getting flamed even though my views aren't that drastic, but I wouldn't hold any personal responsibility for it if it happened in my mind. I also wouldn't go to the stand for someone who I thought was actually high risk of getting in an alcohol related accident (insert comment about how everyone's high risk at .08).
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Old 10-17-2007, 10:56 AM
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i would

the whole "stand up for your friend regardless of the situation" is BS to me. if my best friend goes on a killing spree and confides in me, you better believe i'm turning him in.
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Old 10-17-2007, 11:36 AM
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It's cliche yes, but 'don't do the crime if you can't do the time'.


This applies to both you and your friend.

I'd say tell him to get a good lawyer, but it sounds like he doesn't have two nickels to rub together.
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Old 10-17-2007, 11:42 AM
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No way in hell I'm going to blatantly lie under oath so my "friend" can not learn his lesson. I'm pretty sure I'm standing in a corner by myself here, but in my mind, perjury is one of the worst morale[sic] crimes you can commit.
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Old 10-17-2007, 11:46 AM
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I dont think lying under oath is something a good friend should be asking another good friend to do.
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Old 10-17-2007, 12:28 PM
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if your friend asked you to do this, he is terrible human being. If it was his first time I could understand him asking you this because he would be afraid etc but he is repeating.

Its easier for us to say u shouldn't do it, but u definetly shouldn't
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Old 10-17-2007, 12:59 PM
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either route seems perfectly acceptable. surely this guy knew that a 3rd time would have awful consequences, and he did it anyways.

so its not your responsibility to bail him out of the mess he himself created.

on the other hand, a white lie here and there never hurt anyone. i dont see any problems with saying that it was you who drove.

on a more relevant issue, you might be overestimating how much weight your unsubstantiated testimony will really have. you cant verify your story. its just your word. and it might be rather transparent that you are just trying to save your friends ass.

flip a coin? or go with your gut.
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Old 10-17-2007, 01:02 PM
Aloysius Aloysius is offline
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i was skeptical before i opened the thread, but you do have a genuine morale dilema here

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lol what's up with your avatar? I thought we were on the same page (ie banjos are gay).

OP - this situation sucks and I feel for you, but I think it's pretty black and white and you shouldn't lie for him.

-Al
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Old 10-17-2007, 01:07 PM
GambleGamble GambleGamble is offline
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...FWIW he did not ask me, he went over the scenario with me, which I am pretty sure he did because he was trying to ask me but without doing it directly...

....and I now realize it should be Moral...but in my state last night I added the E
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