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  #711  
Old 06-16-2007, 12:34 AM
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Default Re: Stars treats me like I [censored] her daughter then pushed her hom

Ugh, why do I suck at 15 BB challenges so much? An hour-plus in, I'm BUSTO at one table and up a nickel at the other.


Barf:

Full Tilt Poker Game #2678706759: Table Pine Ranch - $0.25/$0.50 - Limit Hold'em - 0:36:20 ET - 2007/06/16
Seat 1: lilNlVlM ($51)
Seat 2: jrossman ($10.85)
Seat 3: laptopster ($13.80)
Seat 4: yf4e10 ($7.90)
Seat 5: oodles67 ($10.55)
Seat 6: lefty2432 ($14.75)
Seat 7: SaylorMarsh ($7.55)
Seat 8: shaim1312 ($12.25)
Seat 9: sv82 ($0), is sitting out
lefty2432 posts the small blind of $0.10
SaylorMarsh posts the big blind of $0.25
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SaylorMarsh [Js Jd]
sv82 adds $5
sv82 has returned
shaim1312 folds
lilNlVlM calls $0.25
jrossman folds
laptopster folds
yf4e10 folds
oodles67 calls $0.25
lefty2432 calls $0.15
SaylorMarsh raises to $0.50
lilNlVlM calls $0.25
oodles67 calls $0.25
shaim1312 stands up
lefty2432 calls $0.25
*** FLOP *** [4d 5s 3h]
lefty2432 has 15 seconds left to act
AH3D sits down
lefty2432 checks
SaylorMarsh bets $0.25
AH3D adds $10
lilNlVlM calls $0.25
oodles67 folds
lefty2432 folds
*** TURN *** [4d 5s 3h] [4h]
SaylorMarsh bets $0.50
lilNlVlM calls $0.50
*** RIVER *** [4d 5s 3h 4h] [6h]
SaylorMarsh bets $0.50
lilNlVlM raises to $1
SaylorMarsh folds
Uncalled bet of $0.50 returned to lilNlVlM
lilNlVlM mucks
lilNlVlM wins the pot ($4.30)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $4.50 | Rake $0.20
Board: [4d 5s 3h 4h 6h]
Seat 1: lilNlVlM collected ($4.30), mucked
Seat 2: jrossman didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: laptopster didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: yf4e10 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: oodles67 (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: lefty2432 (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 7: SaylorMarsh (big blind) folded on the River
Seat 8: shaim1312 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: sv82 is sitting out
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Old 06-16-2007, 01:44 AM
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Default Re: Stars treats me like I [censored] her daughter then pushed her hom

[ QUOTE ]
Ugh, why do I suck at 15 BB challenges so much?
...

Full Tilt Poker Game #2678706759: Table Pine Ranch - $0.25/$0.50
...
Dealt to SaylorMarsh [Js Jd]
...
*** RIVER *** [4d 5s 3h 4h] [6h]
SaylorMarsh bets $0.50
lilNlVlM raises to $1
SaylorMarsh folds
Uncalled bet of $0.50 returned to lilNlVlM


[/ QUOTE ]

I would say that the answer to your question is self-evident. Are you kidding me, bet/folding getting 10:1?
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Old 06-16-2007, 02:07 AM
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Default Re: Stars treats me like I [censored] her daughter then pushed her hom

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Ugh, why do I suck at 15 BB challenges so much?
...

Full Tilt Poker Game #2678706759: Table Pine Ranch - $0.25/$0.50
...
Dealt to SaylorMarsh [Js Jd]
...
*** RIVER *** [4d 5s 3h 4h] [6h]
SaylorMarsh bets $0.50
lilNlVlM raises to $1
SaylorMarsh folds
Uncalled bet of $0.50 returned to lilNlVlM


[/ QUOTE ]

I would say that the answer to your question is self-evident. Are you kidding me, bet/folding getting 10:1?

[/ QUOTE ]

so you think villian is bluffing more than 9% here at a .25/.50 table?
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Old 06-16-2007, 03:42 AM
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Default Re: Stars treats me like I [censored] her daughter then pushed her hom

Doh. Aussie is alright. I still have to find out if Im fired [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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Old 06-16-2007, 07:47 AM
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Default Re: Stars treats me like I [censored] her daughter then pushed her hom

Game #4708166314: Hold'em NL (50/100) - 2007/06/16 - 12:45:11 (GMT)
Table "8" Seat 1 is the button.
Seat 1: somka sits out
Seat 2: Engl1sh (5280 in chips)
Seat 3: EskimoFan (1240 in chips)
Seat 4: Snm9561 (1035 in chips)
Seat 5: Edgarito (4570 in chips)
Seat 6: appyshark (1750 in chips)
Seat 7: Comeonson (2210 in chips)
Seat 8: Afgrey (2205 in chips)
Seat 9: a_mr_e (1145 in chips)
Seat 10: Suckeggs (3495 in chips)
Engl1sh: posts small blind 50
EskimoFan: posts big blind 100
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to EskimoFan [5h Ks]
Snm9561: calls 100
Edgarito: calls 100
appyshark: calls 100
Comeonson: folds
Afgrey: folds
a_mr_e: raises to 1145 and is all-in
Suckeggs: folds
somka: folds
Engl1sh: folds
EskimoFan: calls 1045
Snm9561: is all-in 935
Edgarito: folds
appyshark: folds
----- FLOP ----- [Qd 8d Jh]
----- TURN ----- [Qd 8d Jh][5d]
----- RIVER ----- [Qd 8d Jh 5d][5s]
----- SHOW DOWN -----
a_mr_e: shows [As Qs] (Two Pairs, Queens and Fives, Ace high)
EskimoFan: shows [5h Ks] (Three of a kind, Fives, King high)
Snm9561: shows [Kh Ah] (A Pair of Fives, Ace high)
EskimoFan collected 220 from Side pot #1
EskimoFan collected 3355 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot 3575 Main pot 3355 Side pot #1 220 | Rake 0
Board [Qd 8d Jh 5d 5s]
Seat 1: somka (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Engl1sh (small blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: EskimoFan (big blind) showed [5h Ks] and won (3575) with Three of a kind, Fives, King high
Seat 4: Snm9561 showed [Kh Ah] and lost with A Pair of Fives, Ace high
Seat 5: Edgarito folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: appyshark folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Comeonson folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Afgrey folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: a_mr_e showed [As Qs] and lost with Two Pairs, Queens and Fives, Ace high
Seat 10: Suckeggs folded before Flop (didn't bet)

lol donkaments
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Old 06-16-2007, 07:57 AM
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Default Re: Stars treats me like I [censored] her daughter then pushed her hom

oh ffs, im trying to bust. these are back to back hands:

Game #4708241354: Hold'em NL (75/150) - 2007/06/16 - 12:54:36 (GMT)
Table "8" Seat 10 is the button.
Seat 1: Annieuk (2740 in chips)
Seat 2: Engl1sh (5330 in chips)
Seat 3: EskimoFan (1375 in chips)
Seat 4: Dirk0811 (905 in chips)
Seat 5: Edgarito (3835 in chips)
Seat 6: appyshark (3550 in chips)
Seat 7: Comeonson (2060 in chips)
Seat 8: Afgrey (2055 in chips)
Seat 9: Forest013 (7740 in chips)
Seat 10: Suckeggs (2945 in chips)
Annieuk: posts small blind 75
Engl1sh: posts big blind 150
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to EskimoFan [Ks Th]
EskimoFan: raises to 1375 and is all-in
Dirk0811: folds
Edgarito: folds
appyshark: folds
Comeonson: folds
Afgrey: folds
Forest013: raises to 7740 and is all-in
Suckeggs: folds
Annieuk: folds
Engl1sh: folds
Returned uncalled bets 6,365 to Forest013
----- FLOP ----- [2h 4s 6h]
----- TURN ----- [2h 4s 6h][3s]
----- RIVER ----- [2h 4s 6h 3s][Tc]
----- SHOW DOWN -----
Forest013: shows [Ah Kd] (High Card Ace)
EskimoFan: shows [Ks Th] (A Pair of Tens, King high)
EskimoFan collected 2975 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot 2975 Main pot 2975 Rake 0
Board [2h 4s 6h 3s Tc]
Seat 1: Annieuk (small blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Engl1sh (big blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: EskimoFan showed [Ks Th] and won (2975) with A Pair of Tens, King high
Seat 4: Dirk0811 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Edgarito folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: appyshark folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Comeonson folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Afgrey folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Forest013 showed [Ah Kd] and lost with High Card Ace
Seat 10: Suckeggs (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)


Game #4708241594: Hold'em NL (75/150) - 2007/06/16 - 12:55:14 (GMT)
Table "8" Seat 1 is the button.
Seat 1: Annieuk (2665 in chips)
Seat 2: Engl1sh (5180 in chips)
Seat 3: EskimoFan (2975 in chips)
Seat 4: Dirk0811 (905 in chips)
Seat 5: Edgarito (3835 in chips)
Seat 6: appyshark (3550 in chips)
Seat 7: Comeonson (2060 in chips)
Seat 8: Afgrey (2055 in chips)
Seat 9: Forest013 (6365 in chips)
Seat 10: Suckeggs (2945 in chips)
Engl1sh: posts small blind 75
EskimoFan: posts big blind 150
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to EskimoFan [5h Qs]
Dirk0811: folds
Edgarito: folds
appyshark: raises to 300
Comeonson: folds
Afgrey: calls 300
Forest013: calls 300
Suckeggs: folds
Annieuk: folds
Engl1sh: calls 225
EskimoFan: raises to 2975 and is all-in
appyshark: folds
Afgrey: is all-in 1755
Forest013: calls 2675
Engl1sh: folds
----- FLOP ----- [7s 9c 9d]
----- TURN ----- [7s 9c 9d][4c]
----- RIVER ----- [7s 9c 9d 4c][5d]
----- SHOW DOWN -----
EskimoFan: shows [5h Qs] (Two Pairs, Nines and Fives, Queen high)
Afgrey: shows [Ah Kc] (A Pair of Nines, Ace high)
Forest013: shows [Kd Qd] (A Pair of Nines, King high)
EskimoFan collected 1840 from Side pot #1
EskimoFan collected 6765 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot 8605 Main pot 6765 Side pot #1 1840 | Rake 0
Board [7s 9c 9d 4c 5d]
Seat 1: Annieuk (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Engl1sh (small blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: EskimoFan (big blind) showed [5h Qs] and won (8605) with Two Pairs, Nines and Fives, Queen high
Seat 4: Dirk0811 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Edgarito folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: appyshark folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Comeonson folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Afgrey showed [Ah Kc] and lost with A Pair of Nines, Ace high
Seat 9: Forest013 showed [Kd Qd] and lost with A Pair of Nines, King high
Seat 10: Suckeggs folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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Old 06-16-2007, 08:25 AM
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Default Re: Stars treats me like I [censored] her daughter then pushed her hom

And this is hilarious:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1MO5JFjx7Q&NR=1
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Old 06-16-2007, 10:13 AM
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Default Re: Stars treats me like I [censored] her daughter then pushed her hom

[ QUOTE ]
so you think villian is bluffing more than 9% here at a .25/.50 table?

[/ QUOTE ]

Or holding a worse hand (Ah3x/Ah5x/Ah6x/TT-77), absolutely. Ugh, too much content.
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Old 06-16-2007, 10:28 AM
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Default Re: Stars treats me like I [censored] her daughter then pushed her hom

So I wrestled this [censored] down to his last 7BB. Then this happenes:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (2 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button (t220)
Hero (t2780)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t60</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t1950</font>, Button calls t160 (All-In).

Flop: (t2170) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Turn: (t2170) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: (t2170) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t2170

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has 8s 8d (two pair, jacks and eights).
Button has 9h 9c (full house, nines full of jacks).
Outcome: Hero wins t1730. Button wins t440. </font>

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (2 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button (t350)
Hero (t2650)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Button calls t15, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t90</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t365</font>, Hero calls t260.

Flop: (t715) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Turn: (t715) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: (t715) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t715

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Qd Jh (one pair, tens).
Button has Ac Jd (one pair, tens).
Outcome: Button wins t715. </font>

Well, yeah, that one is probably debatable...

Immediately followed by this:

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BB (t700)
Hero (t2300)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t90</font>, BB calls t60.

Flop: (t180) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t180</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to t610</font>, Hero calls t430.

Turn: (t1400) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: (t1400) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t1400

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
BB has Ks 5d (two pair, kings and fives).
Hero has 9d Qc (two pair, queens and nines).
Outcome: BB wins t1400. </font>

Ugh. And finally, he donks his stack off with this:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (2 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB (t1170)
Hero (t1830)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t300</font>, BB calls t200.

Flop: (t600) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t400</font>, BB calls t400.

Turn: (t1400) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t500</font>, BB calls t470 (All-In).

River: (t2370) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t2370

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
BB has Qs Kd (two pair, jacks and sixes).
Hero has 8h Jd (full house, jacks full of sixes).
Outcome: Hero wins t2370. </font>
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Old 06-16-2007, 10:56 AM
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Y'know I was thinking last night, playing while I was inebriated a bit, thinking about poker and tilt and etc. I don't tilt much, but I do get impatient and a bit frustrated. I hope it doesn't affect my game much, but after a particular hand last night I was examining why I was getting mad at that one.

I had a flash of insight, and it came to me that tilt is induced by the feeling like we're entitled to win. I had KK and 3-bet pre-flop and you called with THAT CRAP and beat me? I HAD KK!!

I read an interesting article by Mike Caro when I was in MS in the Poker Player Pages or some paper they give away to players. In it he says something to the effect that if, on January 1st, that chances are you will have 300 BAD things happen to you that year, and then come the next January 1st comes only 250 happened, how would that make you feel? What about if 350 bad things happened?

The point I took from it is we know that [censored] is gonna happen. Every day. You'll stub your toe, drop a dish, spill a drink, piss off your wife, something will go wrong. Does knowing make it less frustrating? I think so. It's expected. You're already over the shock that it dare happen in the first place because you expect it so you can focus on what needs to be done to move on.

Why does it hurt when we lost our all-in TT vs. J7s when it comes runner-runner flush? Because we know the odds, we're better players (LDO) and we're *entitled* to that win, dammit! I was 81% on that flop, [censored]!

I need this more in life than in my poker game, I think.

[/ QUOTE ]

Entitlement

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