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Old 11-27-2006, 04:46 AM
avidlearner avidlearner is offline
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Default river raised

i am stubborn and have a hard time releasing hands when popped on rivers. this one seems close i wanted to check with others.

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opponent is loose preflop with normal aggression but appears to turn it up postflop a little. i am pretty sure he would raise with TP on the flop fwiw.

6 handed and i open UTG ith black KJo and get called by a loose passive feeder to my left and villian on the button.

flop is 2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

i bet, both call.

turn is K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

i bet, feeder folds, villian calls

river is T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

i bet, villian raises.

i am getting 10-1 and get confused. his hand doesnt make sense, perhaps AJ? then again these guys play weird sometimes....
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Old 11-27-2006, 10:09 AM
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Default Re: river raised

Since you don't have a read on his river play and the pot is offering 10:1 I don't think you can fold here.
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Old 11-27-2006, 09:55 PM
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Default Re: river raised

I usually have a hard time figuring out what he has until I see his cards and my chips sliding into his stack. I think this can be filed in the kurosh hands I should fold but don't thread.
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Old 11-27-2006, 10:15 PM
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Default Re: river raised

What about c/f on the flop?

I never fold on the river.
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Old 11-27-2006, 10:33 PM
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Default Re: river raised

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What about c/f on the flop?

I never fold on the river.

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thats a decent thought as the Q will hit a decent % over time....is it too weak though?
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Old 11-28-2006, 05:48 AM
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Default Re: river raised

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What about c/f on the flop?

I never fold on the river.

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thats a decent thought as the Q will hit a decent % over time....is it too weak though?

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There are 7.5 bets in the pot on this flop. While I don't advocate autobetting every flop where I was the pfr, I think that on flops like paint (or A ),brick, brick betting and seeing 2 folds will happen often enough to show a profit. You will also avoid looking super weak when you just c/f. This is an interesting question but I think I save my flop check folds for scarier boards where my outs are dirty and my opponents tough.
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