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10-26-2007, 04:55 PM
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Big raise, fold or insta-shove?
4.40/180. 3rd level. I know I misplayed this hand horribly by not raising flop, now what do I do?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards) Hero (t2931) UTG (t684) UTG+1 (t2345) MP1 (t4165) MP2 (t5040) CO (t3415) Button (t1100) SB (t6535) Preflop: Hero is BB with  ,  . [color=#666666]1 fold</font>, [color=#CC3333]UTG+1 raises to t200</font>, [color=#666666]4 folds</font>, SB calls t175, Hero calls t150. Flop: (t600)  ,  ,  [color=#0000FF](3 players)</font>[color=#CC3333]SB bets t50</font>, Hero calls t50, [color=#CC3333]UTG+1 raises to t550</font>, SB folds, Hero? 
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#3
10-26-2007, 05:01 PM
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Re: Big raise, fold or insta-shove?
Fold PF and fold flop, this is terrible and not even close to a tough decision.
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#4
10-26-2007, 05:05 PM
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Re: Big raise, fold or insta-shove?
Yeah,def raise flop here,but you already know that....the way I see it,OR could have pretty much anything here.SB's bet is so weak,so is your call,no reason for him to put either of you on much. I dunno,any reads might help,if OR is supertight nit then I'd of course play it different then if he's superlaggy...like I said,don't really know....I think I call here,and shove any non A or diamond turn.
Of course,no hand gets you in trouble like QJ,so,meh.....
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#5
10-26-2007, 05:08 PM
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Re: Big raise, fold or insta-shove?
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Fold PF and fold flop, this is terrible and not even close to a tough decision. [/ QUOTE ] Seriously? That is way too tight imo. You've got a decent hand here,if you fold this pre every time,I'll steal your blind every time
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#6
10-26-2007, 05:28 PM
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Re: Big raise, fold or insta-shove?
It kinda is a dumb post, I was just mad at myself for not betting flop cuz now I have no idea where I am... stupid really. Plus I look so weak... gross. I'm goin to donk school. later.
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#7
10-26-2007, 06:04 PM
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Re: Big raise, fold or insta-shove?
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It kinda is a dumb post, I was just mad at myself for not betting flop cuz now I have no idea where I am... stupid really. Plus I look so weak... gross. I'm goin to donk school. later. [/ QUOTE ] any open spots at donk school? Had a tough coupla days myself
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#8
10-26-2007, 06:13 PM
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Re: Big raise, fold or insta-shove?
Preflop call is fine IMO. You've got nice odds and are closing the action.
As played I'd dump my hand pretty quickly. You're praying he's got AQdd or AKdd, but he'll show up with hands that crush you alot too. Definitely better spots than here
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#9
10-26-2007, 09:10 PM
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Re: Big raise, fold or insta-shove?
I don't care for the PF call, you're OOP against an UTG raiser. The fact that you got lost in this spot is a great argument for just dumping it PF. As played, I guess I'd raise the dumbass minbet from the SB, since it is a value raise against the SB and if UTG stays in then we can just dump the hand. As played, you have to fold here, although you don't really know where you are. Calling here sucks because your hand sucks, your OOP, and you have a lot of chips left. At least if you raised SB's bet then if UTG reraised or even call you could feel good about mucking the hand later, but here UTG could have anything. I mean look at it from his perspective. I raised UTG and the 2 donks in the blinds called. Then, a silly looking flop comes, 1 bet's 1/12 pot and the other calls...screw these fish I'm raising. That being said, you still can't call the raise because it's a long dark road you'll be going down.
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