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Old 11-06-2007, 10:20 AM
snakekilla88 snakekilla88 is offline
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Default Do people really bluff here? (10/25 UB)

Villain is Flamez13. Pretty active and has lost a few big pots to the table fish. I have been pretty tight but have squeezed and taken down most of my pots preflop. I dont think of him as horrible by any means so it made my turn decision here tough. Anyone here played with him before?

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $25 BB (6 handed)


CO ($5433)
Button ($7405.50)
Hero ($5196)
BB ($6944)
UTG ($5154.50)
MP ($5369.50)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $85</font>, CO calls $85, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $395</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP folds, CO calls $310.

Flop: ($900) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $625</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $1525</font>, Hero calls $900.

Turn: ($3950) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $3513 (All-In)</font>, Hero ..

Does Flamez really have that big of a deathwish? Am I suppose to be calling?
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Old 11-06-2007, 10:55 AM
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Default Re: Do people really bluff here? (10/25 UB)

I call and just kind of deal with it if he has a J, my assumption that him calling the second time preflop with the stack sizes is to try things after the flop, especially if hes a donk and active. I just chalk this up to cooler if I lose
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Old 11-06-2007, 10:57 AM
AcTiOnJaCsOn AcTiOnJaCsOn is offline
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Default Re: Do people really bluff here? (10/25 UB)

e z call imo
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Old 11-06-2007, 10:58 AM
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Default Re: Do people really bluff here? (10/25 UB)

I would raise bigger preflop cuz your all so deep. I make it like $500. As played, I call, but not too happy about it. BTW is this game with 200bb buy-in?
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Old 11-06-2007, 11:02 AM
snakekilla88 snakekilla88 is offline
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Default Re: Do people really bluff here? (10/25 UB)

no we are all just deep
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Old 11-06-2007, 11:29 AM
AcTiOnJaCsOn AcTiOnJaCsOn is offline
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Default Re: Do people really bluff here? (10/25 UB)

the way u play it u literally can not fold against semiskilled opponents, would not even think of folding here
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Old 11-06-2007, 11:56 AM
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Hmm this is a very weird Spot cuz I have huge trouble giving him a hand here.. there is 200$ in the pot pf, I would raise bigger with these stacksizes, at least 450$+. I like your flop call and the turn seems to be a call.
He coldcalled Mp3 then called you. Could you provide a little history between Mp3 and Co ? Is this the fish and he might do this with AA, expecting a squeeze from many players behind him? If this is not the case then there aren't many hand combinations left that could beat you on the flop.. 88 is very borderline but possible and JJ is kinda unlikely. Would he call a hand like QJs, AJs or JTs pf ? Maybe a combodraw ? I don't see a way to fold without more information
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Old 11-06-2007, 11:59 AM
king_of_drafts king_of_drafts is offline
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Default Re: Do people really bluff here? (10/25 UB)

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the way u play it u literally can not fold against semiskilled opponents, would not even think of folding here

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uh not really true, there are a lot of players I'd fold flop vs. I think I would probably fold without much knowledge as to how villain plays.

Assuming flamez13 is the same guy as flamez13 on ftp, though, I would get it in very fast.
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Old 11-06-2007, 12:07 PM
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Don't you think he slowplays the J some percentage of the time?
And also bluffs a bunch (you did squeeze pre). Seems like an easy call.
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Old 11-06-2007, 12:58 PM
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Don't you think he slowplays the J some percentage of the time?
And also bluffs a bunch (you did squeeze pre). Seems like an easy call.

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ya and oftentimes w/ aggro villains (i know i do it) bluffing frequency goes way up cuz u figure u gott a lot more fe when deep
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