in which i own someone then fold

BadBigBabar · #1 10-23-2007, 02:43 AM

hi guys, villain is a 20/7 tag here who doesn't quite get it. thoughts? my image is also tag.

1/2 fr online

Preflop: hero is UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, hero raises, MP1 calls, 4 folds, BB calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, hero bets, MP1 raises, BB folds, hero 3-bets, MP1 caps, hero calls.

Turn: (7.25 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
hero checks, MP1 bets, hero raises, MP1 calls.

River: (11.25 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
hero bets, MP1 raises, hero folds.

Final Pot: 13.25 BB

Goodnews · #2 10-23-2007, 03:02 AM

On the flop, I thought villain might be pumping a combo draw here, then after BB folds he continues to cap, so I don't really think so unless its something obscure like T8dd or 86dd, so I don't think those are likely holdings )given the stats).

The turn c/r is good. If you put him on an overpair like TT or JJ then thats understandable, I don't see him playing the flop the way he did with 88, 66, 55, 44, or 22. So he either has a medium overpair or a set.

The lack of a 3-bet on the turn tells us he doesn't have a set.

I 3-bet this river for value. Pretty obvious this card is a scare card, only hand I'd be worried about here is KQdd, KJdd, and maybe even QJdd.

KitCloudkicker · #3 10-23-2007, 08:28 AM

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I 3-bet this river for value.

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monster spew. you call a cap too? even worse if so.

Goodnews · #4 10-23-2007, 11:23 AM

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I 3-bet this river for value.

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monster spew. you call a cap too? even worse if so.

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Nope, pretty obvious why given my reads. FWIW let me recall DeathDonkey in his well thread.

Q. What are one of the most profitable plays in LHE today?

A. Raising a card that completes draws, you only need to have a successful bluff work a small percentage of the time.

Yes this is a spew against a passive player, but villain is not that.

Fluffy_Shark · #5 10-23-2007, 11:36 AM

if you think he has either the flush or a bluff, 3betting is terrible.

Oink · #6 10-23-2007, 11:39 AM

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I 3-bet this river for value .

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A. Raising a card that completes draws, you only need to have a successful bluff work a small percentage of the time.

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I hope I am being levelled

KitCloudkicker · #7 10-23-2007, 11:42 AM

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have a successful bluff work a small percentage of the time.

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so your 3 bet has no value DUCY

and if you dont, i seriously doubt you even know what a "bluff" is

Xhad · #8 10-23-2007, 04:17 PM

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I 3-bet this river for value.

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monster spew. you call a cap too? even worse if so.

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Nope, pretty obvious why given my reads. FWIW let me recall DeathDonkey in his well thread.

Q. What are one of the most profitable plays in LHE today?

A. Raising a card that completes draws, you only need to have a successful bluff work a small percentage of the time.

Yes this is a spew against a passive player, but villain is not that.

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So you want to 3bet a bluff why?

EDIT: lol, every post I didn't read was along these lines but that's because it's true

sharpie · #9 10-23-2007, 04:07 AM

I'd lead the turn, his flop cap reeks of FD or monster, and you don't really want to give a free card or lose an extra bet to a monster. You're hardly ever good on the river.

Fluffy_Shark · #10 10-23-2007, 05:47 AM

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I'd lead the turn, his flop cap reeks of FD or monster, and you don't really want to give a free card or lose an extra bet to a monster. You're hardly ever good on the river.

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