middle pair plus missed fd river decision

[bosh]

Literally first hand of the seeion so no reads or stats yet.

Full Tilt Poker $1/$2 Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG calls, MP folds, <font color="#FF0000">CO raises</font>, SB calls, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (8.00 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, <font color="#FF0000">CO bets</font>, SB calls, <font color="#FF0000">Hero raises</font>, UTG folds, CO calls, SB calls.

Turn: (7.00 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#FF0000">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, SB calls.

River: (10.00 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#FF0000">Hero?? </font>

Is betting totally wrong? Anyone check call?

[frenchpignouf]

Sb has often a better TX or a weak K and there is no many worst hands which can call. CO can check with JJ, So betting is wrong imo.

If CO bets and SB fold I call, if CO call I fold, not sure it is the best line tough.

[kimchi]

I'd check behind and hope CO checks behind something a busted flush or broadway draw. If CO bets and SB overcalls, then there's not much we beat. It's a large pot though, and we have no reads, plus we're last to act, so I'd probably overcall in this large pot and hope to see some medium pps and take some notes.

If SB folds to a CO bet, then I'm calling.

[ILOVEPOKER929]

I would bet the flop here. Whether I bet/3bet or bet/call depends on action. Given that you checked, check/raising here is fine. You have an equity advantage and you could still have the best hand and you make life hard for QQ/JJ.

Turn is standard.

River: I would check/evaluate. I dont see any value to a bet here and no better hand is folding.

[ILOVEPOKER929]

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I'd check behind and hope CO checks behind something a busted flush or broadway draw. If CO bets and SB overcalls, then there's not much we beat. It's a large pot though, and we have no reads, plus we're last to act, so I'd probably overcall in this large pot and hope to see some medium pps and take some notes.

If SB folds to a CO bet, then I'm calling.

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Overcalling the river in this spot is burning money.

[kimchi]

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I'd check behind and hope CO checks behind something a busted flush or broadway draw. If CO bets and SB overcalls, then there's not much we beat. It's a large pot though, and we have no reads, plus we're last to act, so I'd probably overcall in this large pot and hope to see some medium pps and take some notes.

If SB folds to a CO bet, then I'm calling.

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Overcalling the river in this spot is burning money.

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We have no reads, and we're getting 11:1. Slightly -EV perhaps, but I wouldn't say it's burning money.

[ILOVEPOKER929]

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I'd check behind and hope CO checks behind something a busted flush or broadway draw. If CO bets and SB overcalls, then there's not much we beat. It's a large pot though, and we have no reads, plus we're last to act, so I'd probably overcall in this large pot and hope to see some medium pps and take some notes.

If SB folds to a CO bet, then I'm calling.

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Overcalling the river in this spot is burning money.

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We have no reads, and we're getting 11:1. Slightly -EV perhaps, but I wouldn't say it's burning money.

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Having no reads in this spot is an argument for folding, not an argument for calling.

[rzk]

bet the flop please,with 4 people co won't always make a continuation bet and you don't want it to be checked around. if you get raised you can sometimes jam it depending on the situation. on the river, you should check as others said. i'm co bets and sb folds, i'm probably indifferent to calling or folding. at the table i'd probably fold but that's because i'm a nit.

[bosh]

Cheers for your responses. What other sort of situations should i be donking the flop in? I very very rarely do it except with a monster against someone who is too aggro.

[inferno]

time to yam the flop, you have a pair+fd, how can you accomplish this is to donk it yo
check riva